Jesus rose from the dead - but why no change?
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marty-130-840283 — 9 years ago(November 14, 2016 01:30 AM)
Hi Bastach, the change does occur.
In the individual person. You, me, whoever else believes.
In order to change a whole society, every person in that society, would have to be a saved Christian. As it stands, saved Christians are in the minority in society, despised and mocked (even on these boards)
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Rumble_McSkirmish — 9 years ago(November 14, 2016 02:47 AM)
As it stands, saved Christians are in the minority in society, despised and mocked
Largest religion in the world with 2.2 billion followers that dominates like 2 hemispheres and heavily populates the other two
"We're a minority, we're so persecuted"
Get f$$ked. Seriously, get f$$ked.
Meanwhile in reality land the country I live in I have laws that effect my life written by Christians, educational standars lowered by non-evolution understanding Christians, and hell, am even barred from holding office in multiple states because of my nonreligious status. Many others here of my status have been discriminated and persecuted by individuals of faith and the government itself and still are, in some places receiving it because "good Christians", such as yourself paint us as immoral satan worshippers. In other countries, not being of faith gets you death. I'm just fortunate I live in a rather secular area of a somewhat justice seeking country.
You aren't a minority and you have quite a huge deck stacked in your favor. Screaming persecution because your opinions get called out or because you didn't get to the breakfast bar in time at your local Denny's is stupid and pathetic. You wouldn't know persecution if it took a steaming dump in your lap
To add;
Have you ever been shunned? I have, and it's not fun.
I went to a CW reenactment in Virginia. My unit stayed for a week including over a weekend (Weds to Weds) with a religious church service on Sunday which I chose not to go to. When asked why I didn't go I responded because I don't believe in religion and just would rather not be there. Within a day lots of people knew it and I started getting people coming to me trying to preach, which I'd just find some excuse to get away from. By Tuesday morning I had trash thrown in my tent while I slept, my campfire was watered out while my breakfast was cooking, my tent stakes got pulled which resulted in a kerosene lamp spilling over my coat, leathers, rifle and tent. By the afternoon I was left to cook by myself from my own unit. Tuesday night I left.
After that I had to change units because my own stopped sending news letters and wouldn't return calls. After that the passion just kind of left me to do that stuff any more. I had lots of fun years and times in that group, and left it because I was an atheist. But it's a minor black ball and taught me a lesson that I shouldn't let others know my stance in person.
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Rumble_McSkirmish — 9 years ago(November 14, 2016 11:49 AM)
Like I said, it's just a small blemish that taught me a lesson. What makes it float back up to angry territory is when someone that thinks persecution is having their opinions scrutinized and that their control over nations is discrimination against them.
Also, lots of confederates are racists. I dunno why it shocked me when I actually got to meet real southern Confederates, but yeah
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Rumble_McSkirmish — 9 years ago(November 15, 2016 09:13 AM)
Welcome to the club Bast, we've got punch and pie.
Poor Marty, so desperate to be right and unblemished he blocks people for simple slights. Truly he is the most persecuted Christian ever
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bastasch8647 — 9 years ago(November 15, 2016 01:12 PM)
Truly he is the most persecuted Christian ever
I guess soI can't prove it, and the news sources are inconsistent, but Marty Martyr apparently asked to be crucified upside down. When reminded that St. Peter had already done that, Marty asked to be nailed to the wooden spokes of a Viking Sky Wheel, where he was seen to be rotating in the air for the greater part of a weekto the festive, merry cheers of throngs of onlookers. -
marty-130-840283 — 9 years ago(November 16, 2016 03:21 AM)
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uther8 — 9 years ago(November 15, 2016 06:42 AM)
Cuz I wuz persecutin' poor Marty by making him read his damned bible instead of just beating it on everyone's heads
Same here! Seems to be a pattern! Just like Kibbles and Navvy
None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free - Goethe
