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    Kareiyasu — 16 years ago(August 23, 2009 11:23 AM)

    False, tipping is completely optional unless worked into the fee (more than a group of 8 or more). It's called gratuity for a reason. Look the word up if you wish, either way tipping is completely OPTIONAL. No, I'am not hiring a person to serve me, they are WORKING, performing a task they are already getting paid for. In the end it's freedom that allows me to go to whichever restaurant I feel and not tip.
    You can refuse customer's from further service but would that be good for your revenue stream? no, in fact it would be stupid. I wouldn't care if a few customer's didn't tip aslong as they kept coming to my bar/diner to keep the revenue going.
    Plus you're making mountains out of mole hills, a few cusmtomer's not tipping will not ruin you or your waiters, you need to step down off your pedastal.
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      doowopfan — 16 years ago(August 24, 2009 07:00 AM)

      Walk out without paying a check you are stealing; walk out without tipping, it is completely legal. A tip IS optional.
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        xample-1 — 14 years ago(December 03, 2011 11:49 PM)

        You have obviously never been a server. Go back to these places that you don't tip at and see how good the service is. Where I work if I know somebody doesn't tip they get the minimum service. Why should I bust my a** when I'm getting no tip regardless?
        PS: The OP hit the nail on the head when explaining that if nobody tipped, every server in America would quit until they were paid more than minimum wage. This would result in the price being INCLUDED in the price of the food. Most people don't understand this concept. TIPS = TO INSURE PROPER SERVICE

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          dougbrigg — 12 years ago(December 06, 2013 08:55 AM)

          Why can't you just do a professional job for your salary like everyone else is expected to?
          What makes you so special that you feel you should be paid twice or have a customer subsidise your wages?
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            Doc80 — 10 years ago(August 06, 2015 10:55 AM)

            Because they are only making 2 something an hour nimrod. If you want them paid the federal minimum wage then be prepared to pay $5 more per meal.

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              OnlyCaleb1 — 10 years ago(October 20, 2015 09:33 AM)

              Yes, they're making 2 dollars an hour.unless the tips don't average out to the federal minimum wagewhich is something people who justify tipping conveniently leave out.
              The truth is, waiters actually make more than most people at entry level jobs. The least they'll make is equal to what someone who's a cashier at McDonalds is making. They can make far more in a given night though.
              No waiter has ever made 2 dollars an hour. That would be illegal, hence the term MINIMUM Wage.

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                Doc80 — 9 years ago(April 17, 2016 04:49 PM)

                Yes and if that is happening then the restaurant is still going to increase prices or close down because they obviously aren't getting enough customers.

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                  eifler121 — 14 years ago(March 04, 2012 12:37 AM)

                  Waiters work for around $2 an hour. It's legal because they are supposed to be making tips.

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                        ClintJCL — 13 years ago(September 03, 2012 02:26 PM)

                        Uh no. They are paid $2/hour because minimum wage is lower for servers because they are assumed to get tips. Look it up.
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                          kolchak-thenightstalker — 16 years ago(September 19, 2009 09:10 PM)

                          it just so happens that I tip when I feel service was good. if service was bad i do not tip.
                          if the server is upset than i would certainly be happy to sit down and explain why i didn't leave a tip (i.e. my food was cold by the time you served me, service was so slow, etc.)
                          the word tips stands for:
                          T - To
                          I - Insure
                          P - Proper
                          S - Service
                          Servers have to realize that a tip is for doing a good job, for doing above and beyond. you don't get a tip for just showing up to work.

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                              edbelfour3 — 15 years ago(September 25, 2010 11:24 AM)

                              Not to mention the fact that you'd use "Ensure" rather than "Insure" in this case. So it would be TEPS if the previous poster wanted to be grammatically correct about their assertion.

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                                    bgsmith33 — 16 years ago(September 25, 2009 05:43 PM)

                                    Nightstalker:
                                    I can actually understand if you don't tip for lousy service. Being expected to give money to someone who's been treating you like s*** doesn't feel right. I would never blame a customer for not tipping if the service is bad.
                                    Still, if a server takes your order, pours your drinks, brings you your food (and in some cases, has a hand in making it), and does it all with even a somewhat pleasant attitude, he/she deserves something for it. Maybe not the standard 18-20 percent, if you feel the server should have done something better, but to totally stiff a server for mediocre service isn't right.
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                                      ekillr — 15 years ago(October 02, 2010 05:43 PM)

                                      Yes, they deserve their wage, which is paid by their employer. All of that is part of their job description.

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                                        monalisa35023 — 15 years ago(January 23, 2011 01:46 PM)

                                        Yes, they deserve their wage, which is paid by their employer. All of that is part of their job description.
                                        My fianc is a waiter and he does not get paid because he gets tipshis highest paycheck ever at his current restaurant (up scale Italian place) was $11 for 2 weeks of work. The majority of his paychecks say Void on them because he makes his wages in tips. His pay rate is about $2.36 an hour. If you do not tip your server they do NOT get paid at many places.
                                        I do agree that if a server was bad then you should not reward them for their work but if they treat you well and provide as prompt a service as possible then you should not stiff them.
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                                          StaunchWoman — 14 years ago(August 26, 2011 06:56 AM)

                                          If a waiter DEPENDS on tips, they should go above and beyond every single time. If not.. GET ANOTHER JOB!!!!!!!!!
                                          it's quite simple actually.
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