A tip isn't optional
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OnlyCaleb1 — 10 years ago(October 20, 2015 09:33 AM)
Yes, they're making 2 dollars an hour.unless the tips don't average out to the federal minimum wagewhich is something people who justify tipping conveniently leave out.
The truth is, waiters actually make more than most people at entry level jobs. The least they'll make is equal to what someone who's a cashier at McDonalds is making. They can make far more in a given night though.
No waiter has ever made 2 dollars an hour. That would be illegal, hence the term MINIMUM Wage. -
ClintJCL — 13 years ago(September 03, 2012 02:26 PM)
Uh no. They are paid $2/hour because minimum wage is lower for servers because they are assumed to get tips. Look it up.
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kolchak-thenightstalker — 16 years ago(September 19, 2009 09:10 PM)
it just so happens that I tip when I feel service was good. if service was bad i do not tip.
if the server is upset than i would certainly be happy to sit down and explain why i didn't leave a tip (i.e. my food was cold by the time you served me, service was so slow, etc.)
the word tips stands for:
T - To
I - Insure
P - Proper
S - Service
Servers have to realize that a tip is for doing a good job, for doing above and beyond. you don't get a tip for just showing up to work. -
bgsmith33 — 16 years ago(September 25, 2009 05:43 PM)
Nightstalker:
I can actually understand if you don't tip for lousy service. Being expected to give money to someone who's been treating you like s*** doesn't feel right. I would never blame a customer for not tipping if the service is bad.
Still, if a server takes your order, pours your drinks, brings you your food (and in some cases, has a hand in making it), and does it all with even a somewhat pleasant attitude, he/she deserves something for it. Maybe not the standard 18-20 percent, if you feel the server should have done something better, but to totally stiff a server for mediocre service isn't right.
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monalisa35023 — 15 years ago(January 23, 2011 01:46 PM)
Yes, they deserve their wage, which is paid by their employer. All of that is part of their job description.
My fianc is a waiter and he does not get paid because he gets tipshis highest paycheck ever at his current restaurant (up scale Italian place) was $11 for 2 weeks of work. The majority of his paychecks say Void on them because he makes his wages in tips. His pay rate is about $2.36 an hour. If you do not tip your server they do NOT get paid at many places.
I do agree that if a server was bad then you should not reward them for their work but if they treat you well and provide as prompt a service as possible then you should not stiff them.
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imdb-15906 — 13 years ago(December 29, 2012 02:53 PM)
"My fianc is a waiter and he does not get paid because he gets tipshis highest paycheck ever at his current restaurant (up scale Italian place) was $11 for 2 weeks of work. The majority of his paychecks say Void on them because he makes his wages in tips. His pay rate is about $2.36 an hour."
Oh, good! A story problem! If he gets $2.36 an hour and "his highest paycheck ever" "was $11 for 2 weeks of work", then he must never have worked more than 4 hours 40 minutes in two weeks. Hardly seems like a job at all.
By the way, if this is in the US, it's a violation of Federal minimum-wage law. Something that seems to have been forgotten in the discussion so far is that (in the US in 2012), the federal minimum wage is $7.25 per hour. Employers are REQUIRED BY LAW to pay at least this much. Employee payment can include both wages paid by the employer and tips, but if the total of wages + tips is less than $7.25 per hour, the EMPLOYER IS REQUIRED BY LAW to make up the difference.
(US Department of Labor
http://www.dol.gov/whd/minwage/q-a.htm#.UN9zXeTAfTo
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Anyone being paid less than $7.25 an hour, total, should complain to the Feds. Or join a labor union. Or both. Of course, this might result in the establishment shutting down. -
kpddukpoki — 12 years ago(June 02, 2013 08:59 PM)
wait if the food comes out cold you would stiff the server? Really because i have one question for you. Did the chef make the food or the server?? Unless the server forgot to bring your food out a good 10 minutes for the food to cool down (which given the timing, is highly unlikely for a mulititude of reasons), if the food was cold, you should seriously be mad at the restaurant and chefs, before the server!
"Servers have to realize that a tip is for doing a good job, for doing above and beyond."
This is a fallacy simply because the gov't expects most of the server's pay to come from tips. Hence why they aren't paid minimum wage like employee's from Mcdonalds. If you tipped a Subway guy more then that fit's the TIP paradigm but in a full service restaurant, the TIP paradigm is slightly different.
Another poster here said why is it that only servers are expected and have to do extremely well and in their best behavior to make such a wage? For instance, if you hire a plumber and he or she is in a sh!tty mood, and only says "Hello" and then goes on to do his work, you still pay them but when a server is in a bad mood (maybe they got in a car wreck or someone close passed away, whatever it can be the same reason as that plumber too) and says "Hello", takes said order, most people would stiff them simply because they weren't all smiles, upbeat, & pretty much above and beyond amazing??? It's really a double standard. Most people see through what it really is though. It's just all excuses to be cheap!