A tip isn't optional
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bgsmith33 — 16 years ago(September 25, 2009 05:43 PM)
Nightstalker:
I can actually understand if you don't tip for lousy service. Being expected to give money to someone who's been treating you like s*** doesn't feel right. I would never blame a customer for not tipping if the service is bad.
Still, if a server takes your order, pours your drinks, brings you your food (and in some cases, has a hand in making it), and does it all with even a somewhat pleasant attitude, he/she deserves something for it. Maybe not the standard 18-20 percent, if you feel the server should have done something better, but to totally stiff a server for mediocre service isn't right.
Be prepared for the coming Zombocalypse!
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monalisa35023 — 15 years ago(January 23, 2011 01:46 PM)
Yes, they deserve their wage, which is paid by their employer. All of that is part of their job description.
My fianc is a waiter and he does not get paid because he gets tipshis highest paycheck ever at his current restaurant (up scale Italian place) was $11 for 2 weeks of work. The majority of his paychecks say Void on them because he makes his wages in tips. His pay rate is about $2.36 an hour. If you do not tip your server they do NOT get paid at many places.
I do agree that if a server was bad then you should not reward them for their work but if they treat you well and provide as prompt a service as possible then you should not stiff them.
"Blinkin' fix your boobs. You look like a bleeding picasso." -
imdb-15906 — 13 years ago(December 29, 2012 02:53 PM)
"My fianc is a waiter and he does not get paid because he gets tipshis highest paycheck ever at his current restaurant (up scale Italian place) was $11 for 2 weeks of work. The majority of his paychecks say Void on them because he makes his wages in tips. His pay rate is about $2.36 an hour."
Oh, good! A story problem! If he gets $2.36 an hour and "his highest paycheck ever" "was $11 for 2 weeks of work", then he must never have worked more than 4 hours 40 minutes in two weeks. Hardly seems like a job at all.
By the way, if this is in the US, it's a violation of Federal minimum-wage law. Something that seems to have been forgotten in the discussion so far is that (in the US in 2012), the federal minimum wage is $7.25 per hour. Employers are REQUIRED BY LAW to pay at least this much. Employee payment can include both wages paid by the employer and tips, but if the total of wages + tips is less than $7.25 per hour, the EMPLOYER IS REQUIRED BY LAW to make up the difference.
(US Department of Labor
http://www.dol.gov/whd/minwage/q-a.htm#.UN9zXeTAfTo
).
Anyone being paid less than $7.25 an hour, total, should complain to the Feds. Or join a labor union. Or both. Of course, this might result in the establishment shutting down. -
kpddukpoki — 12 years ago(June 02, 2013 08:59 PM)
wait if the food comes out cold you would stiff the server? Really because i have one question for you. Did the chef make the food or the server?? Unless the server forgot to bring your food out a good 10 minutes for the food to cool down (which given the timing, is highly unlikely for a mulititude of reasons), if the food was cold, you should seriously be mad at the restaurant and chefs, before the server!
"Servers have to realize that a tip is for doing a good job, for doing above and beyond."
This is a fallacy simply because the gov't expects most of the server's pay to come from tips. Hence why they aren't paid minimum wage like employee's from Mcdonalds. If you tipped a Subway guy more then that fit's the TIP paradigm but in a full service restaurant, the TIP paradigm is slightly different.
Another poster here said why is it that only servers are expected and have to do extremely well and in their best behavior to make such a wage? For instance, if you hire a plumber and he or she is in a sh!tty mood, and only says "Hello" and then goes on to do his work, you still pay them but when a server is in a bad mood (maybe they got in a car wreck or someone close passed away, whatever it can be the same reason as that plumber too) and says "Hello", takes said order, most people would stiff them simply because they weren't all smiles, upbeat, & pretty much above and beyond amazing??? It's really a double standard. Most people see through what it really is though. It's just all excuses to be cheap!
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starkitty78 — 16 years ago(September 23, 2009 08:36 PM)
To the people who think tipping is optional. In the state of Pennsylvania, min. wage for a server is $2.83 an hour. It hasn't gone up with min. wage in over 10 years. So how would you feel if you were making that much money an hour and got stiffed? I wait tables for a living. If your not going to tip, stay the hell home or go through the drive thru.
Until you have all worked waiting tables and relying on tips for a living, I think you all need to shut the hell up, because you have no clue what it is like. You'll change your tune on not tipping real quick. -
skidbubble — 16 years ago(December 17, 2009 01:57 PM)
"If your not going to tip, stay the hell home or go through the drive thru."
If you are going to expect a tip, bring my meal promptly and hot, refill my coffee if it is low / empty, bring me a new clean fork if I dropped mine on the floor, bring me extra napkins if I am eating like a messy pig, and if I don't have water, ask me if I would like some. If these requests are not being met, don't expect a tip.