"Andy in C Minor":
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eljuma_1 — 15 years ago(December 09, 2010 10:59 AM)
Wow, isn't it puzzling when you say "I don't really have something in mind" and then more and more examples begin to pop in your head?
"Bad Reputation" - Big one. Okay, the cop was a jackass that didn't believe in reintegration. I get that. But I still don't buy he would kill him for that.
The ex-wife's husband would be too obvious, but if it was the wife or the son would be very believable (she didn't want him near her son, who had just turned into a criminal, she may believe, because his influence; or in his case, because he was a stupid teenager that wouldn't accept his father wasn't a "cool" crook anymore) and so, so deliciously cruel (imagine if, in the second case, they had introduced the son as a perfect family man in the modern day).
"Family 8108" - Weeeell, I didn't like that the killer was the only one white guy in the victim's circle again. Or that it was a war veteran with PTSD again. Or that it was pushing the victim over a rail again, but then that's what half of the murders are. Of course, if you watch this ep as a stand alone rather than after 4-odd seasons, then there are no real complains. -
t_smitts — 15 years ago(December 13, 2010 10:46 PM)
Actually, I thought O'Leary was the perfect choice to be the doer. Really glad it wasn't the new husband. Generally speaking, in crime dramas, when a character is introduced that doesn't seem to have anything important to do, that's the doer, so I naturally expected it to be him. I think Pete being killed by his ex-wife or son would've been too depressing, and his partner would've been kinda lame. With O'Leary, on the other hand, you have the role reversal of a crook who's not only trying to reform, but even becomes an informant, and the cop who's turning over to crime, first trying to trick Pete into robbing an armored car, then murdering him (to shut him up, obviously) when it goes sour. Plus it gave Gordon Clapp a totally different kind of cop to play after 12 years of the socially akward, but friendly Greg Medavoy.
I was a bit underwhelmed with the choice of doer in "Family 8108" as well, but didn't dwell on it too much, because I can't really think of anyone better.
On the other hand
"Roller Girl": This one was on TV last night. I caught the end of it and was reminded why it's one of my two least favorites. I identified with Hugh, the lonely kid who never gets the girl, so I was bummed it turned out to be him. I also didn't care for "The Key" (one of my other bottom two) mostly for the same reason. -
kdogg369 — 15 years ago(December 14, 2010 08:45 PM)
Family 8108 made sense to me because PTSD was almost unheard of back then.
As for The Key, I have no doubt the vicitm married when she was too young and was tired of being the wife,mother etc role that society had told her she should do but using a teenage boy to sort those issues out? No,it was wrong what she did and even Jefferies told the doer that. -
fairyqueen — 13 years ago(October 21, 2012 11:36 PM)
""Roller Girl": This one was on TV last night. I caught the end of it and was reminded why it's one of my two least favorites. I identified with Hugh, the lonely kid who never gets the girl, so I was bummed it turned out to be him. I also didn't care for "The Key" (one of my other bottom two) mostly for the same reason."
That's why I was glad it wasn't Dottie from Factory Girls. I could relate to her. I think it also had to do with the fact that, at the time the episode first aired, I was suffering from a pretty bad case of unrequited love for my best male friend who had a girlfriend. -
l4d — 10 years ago(March 08, 2016 03:35 PM)
In real life, women don't kill as often as men do. They make up about 15% of all murders.
Cold Case has 35 women as killers in 156 episodes, for a rate of approximately 22%. That means they had more women kill on the show than in real life.
So you look stupid now for complaining about that. -
bookwormdreamer — 14 years ago(June 26, 2011 08:55 PM)
I also thought they got it right in Factory Girls.It's not like they never did the woman scorned angle .They would go back and forth between the obvious and the unexpected killer.
I wasn't expecting what happened in Beautiful Little Fool but I wasn't too disappointed with it.I liked how good Carmella turned out to be.
One I did feel a little letdown by was Superstar.I felt the reporter being the doer was a bit of a letdown a bit weak on motive.I wanted it to be principal or dean who wanted her to throw the match.
I didn't want it to be her rival turned friend grace or they guy (Fritz) she played against. -
kdogg369 — 12 years ago(August 05, 2013 10:27 PM)
I would have made either the security guard or the female teacher the doer.
That is one episode where it was too politically IMO. Sad to say but in some (not a lot) school districts,anyone white coming in will be viewed as uppity and trying to educate their kids to be more white.
Cold Case critics accuse the show of being too liberal or always trying to make it the white guy,they have a point in this one. -
Razor187 — 15 years ago(December 17, 2010 10:17 AM)
Another I just saw:
Dead Heat
This plays out pretty much the same as Frank's Best. Why not have the Brit or the woman do it this time?
And so Governor Devlin, because even the cost of freedom can be too high, I REFUSE your pardon! -
kdogg369 — 15 years ago(December 21, 2010 01:11 AM)
One thing you will notice about Cold Case. The doer will almost never be a woman. Other than Criminal Minds (which makes sense) Cold Case is one of the shows that has the largest gap between male and female doers, almost 100.
In many of the episodes, this made sense. In others though, like Debut, Andy in C Minor,The Red and The Blue,there were women who had just as strong, if not stronger motives, and the writers didn't use them. -
kdogg369 — 15 years ago(December 21, 2010 01:15 AM)
The Red and The Blue - Had to throw that one in. For me, this was one of the bigger ones. Yes Dusty was a addict but that motive is weak compared to Edie's. Not only was Truck dumping her and going back to his wife, he was going to abandon their career. For a narcissist like Edie,that would have been too much to take. She should have been the one pulling the trigger,not Dusty. Dusty should have been the one who had kept his mouth shut in exchange for being bribed with drug money.
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t_smitts — 14 years ago(April 09, 2011 11:09 PM)
In the case of "serial killer" episodes like "Mindhunters", "The Woods", "It Takes a Village", "Sabotage", and "The Road", it's generally written less as a whodunnit than it is learning why the doer started killing and how to save their latest victim.
I agree about "Andy In C Minor" though (see OP)
I'd also add "Roller Girl". Wish it had been ANYONE but the boy who was her friend.