"Andy in C Minor":
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Razor187 — 15 years ago(December 17, 2010 10:17 AM)
Another I just saw:
Dead Heat
This plays out pretty much the same as Frank's Best. Why not have the Brit or the woman do it this time?
And so Governor Devlin, because even the cost of freedom can be too high, I REFUSE your pardon! -
kdogg369 — 15 years ago(December 21, 2010 01:11 AM)
One thing you will notice about Cold Case. The doer will almost never be a woman. Other than Criminal Minds (which makes sense) Cold Case is one of the shows that has the largest gap between male and female doers, almost 100.
In many of the episodes, this made sense. In others though, like Debut, Andy in C Minor,The Red and The Blue,there were women who had just as strong, if not stronger motives, and the writers didn't use them. -
kdogg369 — 15 years ago(December 21, 2010 01:15 AM)
The Red and The Blue - Had to throw that one in. For me, this was one of the bigger ones. Yes Dusty was a addict but that motive is weak compared to Edie's. Not only was Truck dumping her and going back to his wife, he was going to abandon their career. For a narcissist like Edie,that would have been too much to take. She should have been the one pulling the trigger,not Dusty. Dusty should have been the one who had kept his mouth shut in exchange for being bribed with drug money.
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t_smitts — 14 years ago(April 09, 2011 11:09 PM)
In the case of "serial killer" episodes like "Mindhunters", "The Woods", "It Takes a Village", "Sabotage", and "The Road", it's generally written less as a whodunnit than it is learning why the doer started killing and how to save their latest victim.
I agree about "Andy In C Minor" though (see OP)
I'd also add "Roller Girl". Wish it had been ANYONE but the boy who was her friend. -
bookwormdreamer — 14 years ago(April 13, 2011 07:06 PM)
One thing about Wishing it kind of gives away the ending at the start unless there is some twist coming.I know it's a popular episode it's well done but if it wasn't I think viewrs would complain about that more.
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cinnamon_rose88 — 13 years ago(June 21, 2012 08:33 PM)
Same latter part of the post as the one I put up for Your most hated Cold Case Killers:
Garrett Caine ("Ravaged") - The episode reminded me too much of a great story I read, especially the dog and her trading her body parts. He was such a freaking misogynistic beep that I wished he did it, so that he'll go away and pay. It was funny because I didn't even recognize Steve Sandvoss who I was really in
with before. Ha
Diane Moore ("Schadenfreude") - Again, she didn't do it, but I could pin the whole thing on her. I didn't like how they made it Kitty since she was always such a good friend all for that 'twist'. Just because Diane's husband died on the table didn't make it the doctor's fault, much less her being so bitter and vengeful that she destroyed two lives. I wished she did it just so she can get her just desserts. -
kdogg369 — 13 years ago(July 03, 2012 07:59 AM)
Ironic since she was still having an affair with the man she was suing. Kitty wasn't a huge shock to me as Lindsey's killer. She was a good "friend" because she thought once Lindsey got back on her feet,she'd have her ticket into the world of the rich and famous.
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d_henderson1810 — 13 years ago(July 08, 2012 11:52 PM)
A lot of people are saying that the killer should be another character in the episode- often someone they don't like.
But the very fact that people are saying that X should be the killer, instead of Y, is what makes it effective. The show wouldn't be nearly as suspenseful if you could easily guess the killer.
I often could identify who the killer would be. Firstly, you eliminate the obvious- bullies, rivals etc. Except in rare cases, the killer was often out of left field, and was far less obvious.
I noticed that, when suspects were interviewed, someone would say a throwaway line, and I thought "I wonder why they had them say that?". Later, Lily would remember that this person said that line, ad would crack the case.
I became quite good at guessing the killer, and got it right 80% of the time.
There are a lot of red herring thrown into this show, to throw you off-track, but don't ignore them. Often what seems like a red herring turned out to point to both the killer and the motive.
One example was "Superstar". I found it strange that the reporter called everyone "champ". It is a term of greeting, but it seemed strange. Later, a strange phone call makes Lily realise who is responsible, because the person on the phone said "champ", the same expression as the sports reporter. -
t_smitts — 13 years ago(July 17, 2012 11:51 AM)
Actually, I tended to pretty good at guessing the doer. ("Static" and "Soul" are two major exceptions where I was totally off in my predictions, which is why I really like them). Yes, making the most unpleasanr or unsavory character is seldom the most dramatic choice, but that doesn't necessarily mean the character who turns out to be the doer was the best choice.
I think in some of the ones I suggested, I think there's a least one person who would've been either more surprising or more dramatic. For example having Andy's best friend Carlos in "Andy in C Minor" was kind of lame, because the "best friend doer", as most fans know, is one of the show's biggest cliches. I suggested what if Leah had gotten a cochlear, thinking Andy would've liked her, only to find he's still into Emma. Now she's gotten this implant that's left her not quite fitting into the hearing or deaf worlds for a boy who doesn't even want her, and kills Andy out of frustration. Isn't that more interesting? -
d_henderson1810 — 13 years ago(July 16, 2012 04:10 AM)
I wish that in "One Fall" the killer of the wrestler had been his ex-wife.
The ex-wife in this is such an ungrateful bitch. She didn't like him working on the wharves, but when he becomes a wrestler, and bonds with his son, which is what she wanted, she doesn't want him to be a wrestler either, and takes his son away from him.
She seems like many ungrateful bitches who are never happy, no matter what their husband does.
I think that the bitch should have been the killer, she go to jail, and be seperated from her son, which would serve her right. -
Razor187 — 13 years ago(August 03, 2012 08:26 PM)
Good call, plus my gripe there is the crimal underuse of Theresa Russell. It's shameful enough that she doesn't receive any special credit ("and", "with", etc). If you can land an actress like her, make the most of it!
Also some episodes (namely Yo Adrian and Two Weddings) should have actually had doers.
And so Governor Devlin, because even the cost of freedom can be too high, I REFUSE your pardon!
