Did any victims/survivors watch this?
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cthulhulurks — 13 years ago(October 18, 2012 05:38 AM)
Do you think Neil lives in denial of that he's a victim so that somehow he'd still be the one in control in his own psyche?
The movie's rather ambiguous, it leaves the viewer to decide whether Neil is a victim or not. According to a theory, child's a full blown sexual creature.
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arkadchamp — 13 years ago(January 05, 2013 07:29 AM)
Well bro I've just finished watching this and Im feeling as sorry for you as I feel for Brian. Such awful experience in childhood disturbs the whole life,would you mind if I wanna ask you do you feel same insecurity in life as Brian felt in the film? Just out of curiosity Im asking bro,dont take it personal.
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ARH — 13 years ago(February 23, 2013 11:18 PM)
I'm a survivor of childhood sexual (as wells physical, emotional, and emotional) abuse. I watched this a few years ago. I rented it because I liked the Gregg Araki films I had seen previously. I was unaware the it was about abuse. I just thought it was a gay-themed drama. It's very different from Araki's earlier films!
This film is one of the only movies that ever game me nightmaes, and the only one that gave me nightmares as an adult. It really got under my skin. In spite of that, I'm glad I saw it. -
TheCineSinge — 12 years ago(August 02, 2013 05:47 PM)
I think the abuse I experienced was the reason I sought it out at about the age of 14. It certainly made some sort of resonance with me though I think I was too young to fully grasp it at the time.
I'm now 19 and have just finished re-watching it for the first time in over 5 years and it had a profound effect on me. -
dogluver1970 — 12 years ago(November 18, 2013 04:45 AM)
Gee, what an insight! At least I'd be able to handle being abused. If a creepy uncle touched me when I was 5, I'm pretty sure that wouldn't make me gay AND I would simply say "mommy, uncle touched my pee-pee and I didn't like it." and that would be it.
Just when you think you've seen the most ignorant posts on another internet board
Are you really THAT ignorant/uneducated, or just dumb and super insensitive (though if you're dumb, maybe you don't know how insensitive you're being).
Child molestation (man on boy) doesn't "make (the boy) gay," and often has little to do with sex - it's about power, control and a sick adult seeking unconditional love from someone, and who better than a child to give it?? (they're not stable enough to have healthy relationships with other adults). And by the way, about the same number of men (percentage-wise), who molest boys are heterosexual as they are homosexual. Just like a heterosexual man abusing a young girl isn't considered a "hetero" relationship, as a CHILD cannot give consent to a sexual relationship!!
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Gaze73 — 12 years ago(October 19, 2013 02:26 AM)
Well, first off, thanks for the answer; at least you tried, unlike the guy above. In regards to the first point, the film depicted the fisting act and Neil was doing it voluntarily and having fun. The man didn't force the kids to do anything and was very kind to them, so there would be no reason for them to feel threatened if they'd refused to perform the acts. Also, in RL scenarios oral sex is the most preferred act, and kids are used to sucking since birth. And if it's done to them, no harm done either, as even a 5 year old can enjoy some oral action down there.
As for anal, that is a whole different beast, and so are toddlers who can't even talk or remember what happened; of COURSE there is nothing even remotely close to consent possible. But that's irrelevant here because, the film depicted 8 year old boys, and most of the abused people IRL are also able to walk and talk by the time it's happened to them.
And I don't know why you would state I'm angry, just because I'm ignorant of the deep intricacies of psychosexual development. I'm a very calm person.
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ledo-lorena — 11 years ago(August 22, 2014 11:51 PM)
I have to disagree with what you said. How can I put this?
It doesn't matter he was 8 years old and "enjoyed" it. You have to realize pervs like that coach pray on children from unstable homes. Neil had no father and a beep mother so he was very needy and the coach filled that void.
At 8 years of age, they don't have full mental capacity to understand what is TRULY going on. Because he doesn't have the mental capacity to do so, he bases his experience on what the coach says about it. The coach says it is fun, then it must be fun. He trusted the coach, he felt special, the favourite.
In the end of the day, the child doesn't enjoy what he is doing, he enjoys the affection and attention the perv is giving him, So, he would enjoy fisting the coach just as much as he would enjoy going for a day at the beach or something like that.
It is not about what they do, it is about how coach made him feel.
Also, believing he enjoyed what was happening could very well be a psychological mechanism to deal with what was happening. Brian dealt with it by believing he had been abducted, but, deep inside, he knew what had truly happened all along, neil, on the other hand, dealt with it by believing it hadn't been a bad thing.
Hope it helps to clarify.
L.L Jacobson