I couldn't stand them
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jlewis670 — 18 years ago(June 13, 2007 11:06 AM)
Sorry, second time around I meant insurance. And I didn't see the German version unfortunately. I've got to say though, I was really rooting for Hardenberg to get the police on them. Their whole values were IMO totally screwed up. They were totally anti-democratic for a start, if people wanted their reforms, they would show it! Plus they only showed remorse for the kidnapping, not all the houses they messed up, putting families into major fear!
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fredbel6 — 18 years ago(July 12, 2007 07:20 PM)
I agree, but not with everything you see. They didn't really steal, they thought they were "educating" those people.
Another point is that Jule is a "disturbing element". The two guys, Jan and Peter, like to plan their actions properly, and make sure they don't leave anything. It is Jule who insisted on breaking into the house (Jan was against the idea), it is Jule who wanted to throw the couch into the pool, and it was Jule who forget her mobile phone.
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WalkingCliche — 16 years ago(November 06, 2009 08:08 PM)
There is an obvious meaning to "some people never change." Unlike Hardenberg, who changed from liberal to conservative over the years, the three leads vow not to do so.
SPOILER
The extended ending shows the three leads on a yacht with some sort of ID document containing Hardenberg's photo. This could imply two things. One, they stole Hardenberg's yacht or two, Hardenberg actually gave it to them. If he did give it to them, then it is possible that "some people never change" is referring to him, meaning he is still liberal at heart. -
dc_fcb-1 — 17 years ago(March 09, 2009 04:27 PM)
Their whole values were IMO totally screwed up.
According to whose values???
Not everyone believes like you, can you be less egocentric and narrow minded. Not everyone sees the world through your point of view.
They were totally anti-democratic for a start
Let me guess, you believe you live in a democracy?? My god, thats funny!! -
liutenantsalt — 16 years ago(December 22, 2009 04:45 PM)
According to whose values???
Not everyone believes like you, can you be less egocentric and narrow minded. Not everyone sees the world through your point of view. <<
You call him egocentric and narrow-minded, and yet here you are defending characters who have nothing in their lives except to harass people and violate their privacy and personal security to spread a beep self-righteous Marxist world view.
It's okay for Leftist extremists to invade people's privacy and screw with the lives of others when they do it in the name of some backwards, self-defeating idealism, but if the shoe was on the other foot and, say, the government had broken into their homes to leave threatening messages, steal/vandalize and set up surveillance you better believe they'd be the first to cry about social injustice and violations of their rights.
You're just as much a braindead hypocritical sheep as the characters and authors of this godawful piece.
Let me guess, you believe you live in a democracy?? My god, thats funny!!
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And let me guess, YOUR idea of a proper democracy is something representing Mob Rule, right? -
meininki — 18 years ago(December 11, 2007 05:55 AM)
This doesn't get as clear in the final cut, but on the DVD there's quite a few deleted scenes of Peter flirting with girls. It's sort of implied that he might not exactly be the most faithful boyfriend..
Also, I don't see how what Jule did makes her a whore. She didn't just sleep with random guys, she fell in love. -
amanda1010 — 16 years ago(August 26, 2009 11:48 AM)
That's why I love this movie so much. Because the three "protagonists", so to speak, are very, very flawed people. They are attempting to be martyrs, but their own ideology is not perfect. They haven't got everything figured out. They're just attempting to live with a philosophy that is extremely difficult to follow through with. That's what makes these characters people, and makes this movie so relevant.