The police are so dumb it's not even believable
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samarqand1999 — 14 years ago(February 11, 2012 01:27 PM)
It is just a movie He shot that old lady and stayed in the room for quite a long period of time, and noone actually called the police. Where were all the neighbours? I mean he made some noice with that gun, didnt he? So it is just a movie.
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andykingoftheworld — 11 years ago(January 27, 2015 02:18 AM)
less then 20* females are shot and killed each year in the UK, the polices behavior is laughable this may be because the script was transplanted from New York to London
*source:http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/rel/crime-stats/crime-statistics/focus-on-violent-crime/stb-focus-onviolent-crime-and-sexual-offences-2011-12.html#tab-Victims -
nicknelson-32447 — 9 years ago(April 25, 2016 11:10 AM)
In the UK sawn-off shotguns are associated with organised crime gangs. The idea that a junkie burglar would have one just doesn't ring true at all.
At most he would have a hand gun. Use of a shot gun would immediately raise the suspicions of the police that the crime was something other than what it appeared. -
luv-italy — 15 years ago(February 05, 2011 01:50 PM)
First of all, I love this movie.
But, yes, the cops are a bit dumb. Actually, the one cop does figure the whole thing out but because the old lady's wedding ring didn't go over the gate when he threw her jewels away and a real burglar found it and had it on him when he committed a crime, there was reasonable doubt to pursue Chris.
Luck was one of the themes of the movie and he was lucky with the ring.
BUT, the fact that he used his father in laws shot gun AND Nola had written about him in her diary should have been more than enough reason for the police to investigate further. So I do think the cops are dumb. I've watched too much Forensic Files to believe he'd have gotten off that easy. -
shauncoop — 15 years ago(February 24, 2011 11:49 AM)
Someone tell me I'm wrong or right, 'cos I really don't know, but . . .
. . . surely the shot spray from a sawn-off would be much, much wider than the unaltered shotgun Chris used?
Again, don't really know, but surely this'd be immediately obvious to anybody who works in forensic? -
PurpleProseOfCairo — 14 years ago(April 10, 2011 01:26 PM)
You're right, I wondered where they got "sawn-off" from. I rewound just to check Chris the posh tennis coach hadn't sawn off the barrels of his shotgun before going out to do a "blag"! It would have been obvious to even an untrained eye that the spread was not of a sawn-off.
Awight we're The Daamned we're a punk baand and this is called Carn't Be Appy T'day! -
carwell — 14 years ago(May 05, 2011 06:01 PM)
I would say that the theme of this film is "LUCK" as you can see from the movie Woody Allen is trying to compare the tennis ball hitting the net tip with that of the ring hitting the fence and also the Nola 's own diary in the hands of police.
It is that split second of luck that decides all the outcome. But in reality a smart murderer cannot be so lucky or easy to escape the truth of science. The police has not even consider to examine and pick up tissue sample from the suspect to match the sample tissue that should have been spotted and found in the old lady 's flat. -
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zetret — 14 years ago(June 18, 2011 08:11 PM)
I believe the user "luv-italy" makes a right argument.
The cop just gave up, inspite of all the above arguments.
The question is , "would he have been convicted in court?" .
Think about it. Peel the onion.
(Eventhough she was pregnant, the old lady's coin (with her name in it) was found in another "dead" man's pocket. That is enough evidence for Chris to come out. )
So, The answer is no. The point is, he believed in luck throughout and it was luck that helped him in life rather than in his tennis matches.
The police aren't dumb. They just don't stand a chance against the luck this man had.
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koffeenkreame41-1 — 9 years ago(December 09, 2016 12:20 AM)
I would say that the theme of this film is "LUCK" as you can see from the movie Woody Allen is trying to compare the tennis ball hitting the net tip with that of the ring hitting the fence and also the Nola 's own diary in the hands of police.
It is that split second of luck that decides all the outcome. But in reality a smart murderer cannot be so lucky or easy to escape the truth of science. The police has not even consider to examine and pick up tissue sample from the suspect to match the sample tissue that should have been spotted and found in the old lady 's flat.
This. I agree.
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fstopkennedy — 14 years ago(July 03, 2011 05:41 PM)
The police are dumb or are they busy? Do people really believe in CSI?
The police had usual suspects, they had evidence that some criminal killed the girl, she wasn't such a great celebrity in London, she had no relatives, she had no midia/journalists around the police. So why those policemen would bother?
The case was closed. They had other cases to go through (that is, after some coffee). End of story. -
GuyOnTheLeft — 13 years ago(August 08, 2012 08:15 AM)
Bingo. And let's face it: an upper class guy with no criminal history is not going to be hounded relentlessly by the police especially with the old lady getting killed across the hallit's just too bizarre to think he'd be so diabolical (doubt it's ever happened IRL).
Many murders are never solved, unlike what's portrayed on TV. And many innocent people have been convicted of murder as well. -
sillyhat — 14 years ago(July 10, 2011 12:55 PM)
Presumably, they would have investigated Chris further had they not suddenly found the body of another burglar with the old lady's wedding ring in his possession. That's a pretty major bit of circumstantial evidence there.
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screwtape2713 — 14 years ago(July 13, 2011 02:10 PM)
Uhmm, no it wouldn't. A ballistics test matches a bullet to a particular firearm by matching the rifling in the barrel to the rifling marks indented into the bullet during firing. Even in the same make/model of firearm, minute differences in manufacturing tolerances on the barrel plus individual wear patterns make the rifling marks unique, like a fingerprint.
A shotgun is a smoothbore - it doesn't HAVE rifling. Anything fired from it, even single-round slugs, just goes wobbling down the barrel without being touched by anything. This means a shotgun firing slugs has an accurate range of 100 m or less, like an old-fashioned musket, but it also means that even a shotgun slug cannot be matched positively to a single gun. As for shot pellets - forget it. They go flying down the barrel in a clump.
Your CSI ballisticians will be able to tell you what size shot the woman was hit with, and from the number of pellets and size of the entry wound can probably tell you what gauge shotgun was likely used and from how far away, but that's about it. They might also be able to match the pellets to a specific brand of ammunition if they are very good and/or very lucky, which would help if a suspect has both a shotgun and that make of ammo in his possession. But it's never going to be an exact match.
