The police are so dumb it's not even believable
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carwell — 14 years ago(May 05, 2011 06:01 PM)
I would say that the theme of this film is "LUCK" as you can see from the movie Woody Allen is trying to compare the tennis ball hitting the net tip with that of the ring hitting the fence and also the Nola 's own diary in the hands of police.
It is that split second of luck that decides all the outcome. But in reality a smart murderer cannot be so lucky or easy to escape the truth of science. The police has not even consider to examine and pick up tissue sample from the suspect to match the sample tissue that should have been spotted and found in the old lady 's flat. -
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zetret — 14 years ago(June 18, 2011 08:11 PM)
I believe the user "luv-italy" makes a right argument.
The cop just gave up, inspite of all the above arguments.
The question is , "would he have been convicted in court?" .
Think about it. Peel the onion.
(Eventhough she was pregnant, the old lady's coin (with her name in it) was found in another "dead" man's pocket. That is enough evidence for Chris to come out. )
So, The answer is no. The point is, he believed in luck throughout and it was luck that helped him in life rather than in his tennis matches.
The police aren't dumb. They just don't stand a chance against the luck this man had.
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koffeenkreame41-1 — 9 years ago(December 09, 2016 12:20 AM)
I would say that the theme of this film is "LUCK" as you can see from the movie Woody Allen is trying to compare the tennis ball hitting the net tip with that of the ring hitting the fence and also the Nola 's own diary in the hands of police.
It is that split second of luck that decides all the outcome. But in reality a smart murderer cannot be so lucky or easy to escape the truth of science. The police has not even consider to examine and pick up tissue sample from the suspect to match the sample tissue that should have been spotted and found in the old lady 's flat.
This. I agree.
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fstopkennedy — 14 years ago(July 03, 2011 05:41 PM)
The police are dumb or are they busy? Do people really believe in CSI?
The police had usual suspects, they had evidence that some criminal killed the girl, she wasn't such a great celebrity in London, she had no relatives, she had no midia/journalists around the police. So why those policemen would bother?
The case was closed. They had other cases to go through (that is, after some coffee). End of story. -
GuyOnTheLeft — 13 years ago(August 08, 2012 08:15 AM)
Bingo. And let's face it: an upper class guy with no criminal history is not going to be hounded relentlessly by the police especially with the old lady getting killed across the hallit's just too bizarre to think he'd be so diabolical (doubt it's ever happened IRL).
Many murders are never solved, unlike what's portrayed on TV. And many innocent people have been convicted of murder as well. -
sillyhat — 14 years ago(July 10, 2011 12:55 PM)
Presumably, they would have investigated Chris further had they not suddenly found the body of another burglar with the old lady's wedding ring in his possession. That's a pretty major bit of circumstantial evidence there.
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screwtape2713 — 14 years ago(July 13, 2011 02:10 PM)
Uhmm, no it wouldn't. A ballistics test matches a bullet to a particular firearm by matching the rifling in the barrel to the rifling marks indented into the bullet during firing. Even in the same make/model of firearm, minute differences in manufacturing tolerances on the barrel plus individual wear patterns make the rifling marks unique, like a fingerprint.
A shotgun is a smoothbore - it doesn't HAVE rifling. Anything fired from it, even single-round slugs, just goes wobbling down the barrel without being touched by anything. This means a shotgun firing slugs has an accurate range of 100 m or less, like an old-fashioned musket, but it also means that even a shotgun slug cannot be matched positively to a single gun. As for shot pellets - forget it. They go flying down the barrel in a clump.
Your CSI ballisticians will be able to tell you what size shot the woman was hit with, and from the number of pellets and size of the entry wound can probably tell you what gauge shotgun was likely used and from how far away, but that's about it. They might also be able to match the pellets to a specific brand of ammunition if they are very good and/or very lucky, which would help if a suspect has both a shotgun and that make of ammo in his possession. But it's never going to be an exact match. -
shoobe01-1 — 12 years ago(February 02, 2014 02:47 PM)
This. And note they showed him keeping the shells, so he did some traceable stuff right.
They /might/ have been able to recover a pellet or get some grooves off the wad that indicated the choke installed, but that's dependent on things not being destroyed on impact so is pretty hit or miss for this range.
CSI-ballisticians: Shotguns spread out VERY slowly. A sawed-off shotgun would have essentially the same pattern as a full choke at inside-a-room ranges we're talking about here.
I thought the sawed-off fixation was perfect. They know that's common with criminals and decided that's the best way to sneak one in the house, so were even looking to things like a /missing/ gun from the estate because sawing is destructive. They were still on the wrong track for a borrowed and broken down gun, returned.
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MrNobody685 — 14 years ago(July 17, 2011 07:10 PM)
An autopsy of Nola would of revealed that the she was pregnant. The police knew that Chris, had an affair with her. In reality the police would then of taken Chris's DNA to check for paternety, hence providing a strong motive for Chris to be the main suspect.
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alzanden-1 — 14 years ago(November 18, 2011 08:45 PM)
I think the way they think it happened was totally feasible. Nola comes home, she walks past Mrs. Eastby's apartment to her own door, as she is fumbling for the keys the "burglar" comes running out of the old lady's apartment. Nola hears the commotion so she turns around, sees the burglar, he panics at being seen and shoots her.
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pjbrown1978 — 14 years ago(March 18, 2012 11:18 PM)
I think you may have an inaccurate impression of police methods from watching too many cop shows. The police were writing out the obvious scenario when they first arrived on the scene - another drug related crime. At close range, the shotgun pellets are not going to spread significantly, so there would be little to indicate it was not a sawn off shotgun, even if they bothered looking. No holes here - move along now.
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jeevanravi-1 — 13 years ago(May 10, 2012 07:18 AM)
I was thinking about the phone records. I mean the police would check into that and find out that Chris has made calls to Nola before the murder.
Nola also seems to have told her friend from the work place about meeting her lover that day.
And after the murder, he walked out of her apartment in broad daylight without a mask or anything. Surely with all the cctvs in london, some camera must have picked up his picture.
His alibi is weak because he could have still made the opera after the murder..
So many loopholes. But i still was rooting for Chris to getaway with it.
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LightningLad — 13 years ago(September 06, 2012 11:51 PM)
I think it would have been completely plausible that, having just killed someone, the burglar comes out of the apartment, sees someone standing there, and shoots them as well. He wouldn't have worried about where or how the person was standing. It's fairly certain she turned to him before he shot.
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