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    longcandle — 9 years ago(January 26, 2017 07:27 AM)

    https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/16/62/2e/16622ed640a1ceb9b5525077cce37249.jpg
    but Ross can be, and he was there,in fact,hes the ONLY suspect to ever be confirmed to be in the RCC Library where Zodiac's writing was found
    Did every body catch that? Mr. Morford is fond of making specious, convoluted statements like this in order to deceive people into thinking that on the evening of the murder, Ross Sullivan was at RCC campus
    let alone, in and around the college library
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    and he was there,in fact
    No. One more inconvenient truth for Morford, et al.
    In fact
    , there is absolutely NO evidence and NO witness testimony to establish that Ross Sullivan was anywhere near RCC on the evening of the murder: Sunday, October 30, 1966.
    EDIT UPDATE:
    Michael Morford, as of Jan. 30, 2017, heavily censored his YouTube videos' comments on his pet suspect, Ross Sullivan in order to remove most dissenting opinion, including posts simply requesting more evidence.

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      BlimeyCharlie — 9 years ago(February 01, 2017 04:05 AM)

      Immature humour, much?

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        longcandle — 9 years ago(February 01, 2017 06:40 AM)

        No, hum
        o
        r.

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          BlimeyCharlie — 9 years ago(February 02, 2017 03:03 AM)

          "No, hum
          o
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          SighI can just tell you're from North America, aren't you? Sorry, mate, but we don't spell it that way Down Under - get used to it.
          And, so far, at least, I see far less reason to distrust Mike Morford than Robert Graysmith. Just saying.

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            longcandle — 9 years ago(February 02, 2017 06:54 AM)

            Mike Butterfield had a contingent of loyal Aussie subjects a few years back, too, and look where his forum is just saying.
            EDIT:
            Hey, everybody! Amazingly, after nigh on a six-month hiatus, some "Ross" threads have resurfaced over at
            ZKS
            . What a coinkydink! (Right?) but the
            "PRO vs. CON"
            remains banished to the Admin's scrapheap of Inconvenient Truths.
            Let's see what they have
            "Ross Handwriting"
            : 21 thread pages since Nov. 13, 2014, and here is where the graphology/handwriting/questioned document "expert" examiners are at:
            Can see much resemblance in the 5's. Also in the original post, to me only the 6's and 2's looked similar. The 8's looked really different.
            Hopefully some more writing samples can be found.
            "Harriet Sullivan"
            :
            I found out the cause of death for Harold Sullivan. He died of kidney cancer.
            "Ross's Boss"
            :
            That 2013 photo creeps me out because he looks like an older version of the worst person I have ever met in my entire life. A child molester named Richard Stubbs. Sorry to get off topic there it's just that anything that reminds me of this guy pisses me off (he ripped me off for $10,000).
            "Ross Sullivan"
            : Well I'll be a Kowakian monkey-lizard's uncle! morf13 has indubitably busted Ross:
            At RCC, he seemed isolated or withdrawn.
            "anything connecting Ross Sullivan's initials?"
            : by ever-anonymous, "Paul_Averly," Michael Morford's lead detective:
            The bus bomb map has the word "Ross" printed near the upper left corner.
            This is the town of Ross, but it always jumps out to me.
            Just WOW! These are sure putting Robert Graysmith's research skills and integrity to shame!

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              BlimeyCharlie — 9 years ago(February 04, 2017 08:42 AM)

              Last I checked, doing pretty well. Good website overall, too.

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                longcandle — 9 years ago(February 04, 2017 11:30 AM)

                Yes, people should read John Douglas and Mark Olshaker's,
                The Cases That Haunt Us
                . Douglas concludes that Graysmith's suspect, "Bob Hall Starr" meets much of the criteria that he, Douglas, former FBI special agent & unit chiefone of the first criminal profilerswould consider for a
                prime
                suspect.
                Now, who was Bob Hall Starr again?
                A man once described by San Francisco homicide detective Dave Toschi as a very, very good suspect, and who has been the subject of intense investigation by Robert Graysmith in his research, certainly fits the description I would put together: highly intelligent, IQ estimated around 135; spent much of his adult life living with his mother, with whom he had a difficult relationship at best; educated in chemistry and trained in codes; a hunter who once described man as the most dangerous game to a friend. And he could be placed in the different jurisdictions at the time each of the Zodiac crimes occurred.
                John Douglas,
                The Cases That Haunt Us
                , Chapter Four:
                The Zodiac
                P.S. (Feb. 20, 2017): R.I.P. IMDb Message Boards &
                FAILED
                suspect, Ross Sullivan

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                  BlimeyCharlie — 9 years ago(February 05, 2017 01:07 PM)

                  Only, DNA, fingerprints, handwriting, and even eyewitness descriptions all cleared him. Oh well.

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                    longcandle — 9 years ago(February 05, 2017 01:46 PM)

                    cleared him
                    Please do provide us all with the official Law Enforcement quote where Arthur Leigh Allen was "cleared," exonerated, etc.
                    Please do it before the IMDb forums close on February 20, 2017.

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                      jonafx — 9 years ago(February 03, 2017 09:21 AM)

                      John Douglas wrote about The Zodiac in 'The Cases That Haunt Us'
                      It's interesting that he believes that Cherri Jo Bates was a Zodiac victim,and that the crime scene indicated it was the killers first murder,due to the disorganised elements of the crime.
                      He also stated the killer would have either lived,or worked nearby,as is so often the case.
                      I don't think he had had ever heard of Ross Sullivan.

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                        BlimeyCharlie — 9 years ago(February 04, 2017 08:51 AM)

                        Douglas makes a good point, I reckon.
                        I've long been in two minds about the Bates murder in regards to the Zodiac case. If Sullivan were ever proven to be the Zodiac, it would certainly tie up lots of loose ends in regards to the murder of poor Cheri Jo. If it were Zodiac/Sullivan's first ever murder, then that certainly would explain why the crime scene and murder were so disorganised. The one thing that does give me pause for thought is a report about the murder I read on Jake Wark's site - it suggested that the Zodiac wasn't the killer of Bates, as the victim had put up such a violent struggle, that the killer must not have been a very large or strong man, which conflicts with what we know about both Zodiac and Sullivan.

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                          jonafx — 9 years ago(February 06, 2017 09:26 AM)

                          By all accounts Cherri was quite athletic,she was fighting for her life afterall.Her attacker probably did'nt expect her to put up such a fight,and learnt from his mistakes.

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                            Snakey2233 — 4 years ago(September 02, 2021 10:21 AM)

                            It was Ross Sullivan most likely.

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                              fairy-3 — 9 years ago(January 17, 2017 09:53 AM)

                              WHich one was Ross Sullivan?, the movie was sooooo long I didn't even remember how the got to Leigh

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                                bobby_nynex — 9 years ago(November 27, 2016 02:51 PM)

                                Lee was identified by 2 different witnesses. its him. case closed.

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                                  jfurness4 — 9 years ago(December 03, 2016 02:33 PM)

                                  Leigh Allen

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                                    InjunNose — 9 years ago(December 04, 2016 08:40 PM)

                                    I don't have one. No compelling evidence points to any of the most famous suspects, and a few thousand more have been cleared in addition to Allen, Marshall, et al. Back in the days of spirited debate on Tom Voigt's message boards, I thought Larry Kane was interesting.

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                                      ophion1031 — 9 years ago(December 11, 2016 11:59 PM)

                                      I don't really have a suspect, but if I HAD to guess then I would say that Arthur Leigh Allen was responsible for the early murders and then it became a "team" effort with someone else on "Team Zodiac" committing the Stine murder. And I think that Fred Manalli was the one writing the letters. Yep, 2 killers and one "partner" writing the letters. And who knows, it may have even been more than three people.

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                                        Experiment53 — 9 years ago(December 17, 2016 09:53 AM)

                                        Ross sullivan matched the description with the "widows wail" and was in clise proximity to the crime scenes and Also knew the south cal victim worked with her and when that case got tied in with the other ones he stopped. And he died when the killer stopped.
                                        You cant search for evidence regarding one specific suspect (Arthur) you have to let the evidence find the suspect.

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                                          Experiment53 — 9 years ago(December 17, 2016 09:56 AM)

                                          Arthur lee was sadistic and None of the killings had sexual sadism, Arthur lee once Said he was "zodiac" to a friend the zodiac always referred to himself as "the zodiac" and the Palm print didnt match the letter they pulled it from

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