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That was perhaps the intention of the film. Special pleading so you would not class her as a serial killer but there is

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    blake_mooney8-1 — 18 years ago(February 17, 2008 10:22 PM)

    How exactly was she a "psycho killer"? The only people she killed were either in self defense, or they absolutely deserved it.

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      pking-2 — 17 years ago(July 02, 2008 08:43 AM)

      Other psycho killers tend to think their victims absolutely deserve it too. So, finding someone deserving in your own mind before bumping them off doesn't make you sane and safe.
      IOW, if a psycho killer only murders other murderers, well, he/she is still a psycho.
      She's not ed gein, exactly. But she's out there. The whole point is that vigilantism, though attractive when you feel rage, is a step over to the dark side.
      One psychotic, or at the very least unhealthy, aspect is erica actively prowling the bad parts of town at night, hoping to attract dangerous attention, so she can have an excuse to kill strangers.

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        capechick2730 — 17 years ago(July 12, 2008 09:03 PM)

        Anybody remember the Subway Vigilante Bernie Goetz from the late 70's, early 80's in NYC? Crime went way down for awhile after that incident. When the criminals think you are easy prey they have a tendency to go after you. However if they think you might be armed, I bet they think twice about it.

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          EmpressClaudia — 18 years ago(February 18, 2008 12:23 AM)

          Those aren't really plotholes are they, more like annoyances, well to you.

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            bjossa10 — 18 years ago(February 19, 2008 11:57 PM)

            Maybe the movie was over the top, but anger is a part of grief, and a murder is a horrible tragedy, and let's not forget she was victimized also. I think she wasn't afraid to walk ahead of the pimp because she was armed, and did put a gun to his head previous. Maybe the incident at the grocery store was just a starting point to the story they were tryint to film, so that it somehow expressed that once you kill the first person, then killing others was less scary because she had a first victim. Okay, I didn't really make sense, but I just meant that maybe it was a point to understand how she does go off her rocker.

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              JAML — 18 years ago(March 01, 2008 09:34 AM)

              yes.not loopholes, but plot holes
              drive a truck through is such a cliche
              suspension of disbelief is the correct phrase
              over and over and over and.over again, people write into IMDB to complain about some little nitpicking thing that they see as a goof in a movie. it is not even about suspension of disbelief, it is about telling a story
              luke skywalker just HAPPENS to buy the same droid that his father Darth Vader built?
              it is not a documentary. it is a movie created to tell a story, to express an emotion, to create tension. watch the movie.

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                mirc_user — 18 years ago(March 06, 2008 03:42 PM)

                Why would anyone in their RIGHT MIND be reading threads and posting messages about a movie THEY HAVEN'T EVEN WATCHED!?!
                Honestly, why? WHY?
                You're just begging to have it spoiled for you!

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                  MinistersCat — 18 years ago(March 12, 2008 10:29 PM)

                  I'm about 1/4 through the movie, and came here to look something up. I wasn't concerned with any supposed mismatch of characters (some click, some don't, that's Hollywood), but I was thrown off that they would have "Erica", who could barely leave her apartment building, follow the man she doesn't know into an odd alley, regardless of how badly she wanted the gun.
                  Furthermore, he tells her the gun is hers if she pays him $1,000 right away. What victim of a recent crime would be carrying that much CASH on them? Even if you think for a moment that she was going in to buy a gun in the first place, she would still be more likely to have a credit card, than carry that much cash. If I understood correctly, the gun shop was a sudden decision after waiting in the police station (isn't she wearing the same outfit?), so she didn't preplan by having that much cash on her. It's too odd.

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                    courtjes — 18 years ago(March 15, 2008 06:37 PM)

                    You are so right. This is a weak rip of Death Wish and Jodie usually in better movies. And the NY cop, he was too softspoken and quiet to be a HOMICIDE cop in NYC!
                    I give the movie a 3.

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                      loveayiti — 17 years ago(April 06, 2008 12:11 PM)

                      It's a movie for entertainment. You want factsgo watch a documentary

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                        bex753 — 17 years ago(May 31, 2008 03:07 PM)

                        You could drive a bus through the plot of most main stream movies if you think about it. The key is now to think too much makes movies more enjoyable. Being half cut when you watch movies helps also.

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                          capechick2730 — 17 years ago(July 12, 2008 08:44 PM)

                          Well I know I wouldn't have turned my back on the crazy guy in the car. That was pretty lame writing.

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                            mmmPeachy — 17 years ago(August 19, 2008 10:30 PM)

                            She's not a psycho killer. She's a vigilante.

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                              dan-1207 — 16 years ago(April 28, 2009 07:01 AM)

                              Dude, those aren't loopholes. In fact I think you mean plot holes. Loophole is a word used mostly in law, as in ways around laws so you can accomplish what the law meant to abolish without doing anything technically illegal.
                              And even if you meant plot holes, none of those are plot holes. It's just bad writing. When writers resort to coincidence after coincidence to advance the plot, it becomes lazy writing.
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                                padzok — 16 years ago(July 19, 2009 12:59 AM)

                                I laughed a few times too. Possibly the movie wasnt intended as a comedy, but I still enjoyed it.

                                • In the convenience store, the video machine was right by the cashier. That's extremely convenient for anyone robbing the store or murdering the employees.
                                • The baddie who killed his wife was supposedly involved in all sorts of drug trafficking, money laundering, and gun running. But he has no bodyguards? Not even a driver? No gun either?
                                • There are only 2 homicide detectives in NYC.
                                • An illegal search of mobile phone transmitters can be done by a fat guy in the traffic control room. Oh, and without using a hard-drive.
                                • CSI New York will not be at all suspicious that a guy who has supposedly killed his 2 friends, and then shot a cop, will have no gun shot residue.
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                                    MrRazorz — 15 years ago(February 05, 2011 04:59 PM)

                                    That was my biggest grip about the film - she never went looking for trouble, she just kept randomly wandering into it. She's lived her whole life without anything like this happening before, and suddenly she's bumping into violent criminals every time she leaves the house?
                                    My other big gripe is that she actually found the guys who killed her boyfriend, got revenge and got away with it. A contrived Hollywood ending tied up with a neat little bow. They didn't even do that in
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                                      alice009 — 14 years ago(December 10, 2011 03:54 PM)

                                      "That was my biggest grip about the film - she never went looking for trouble, she just kept randomly wandering into it. She's lived her whole life without anything like this happening before, and suddenly she's bumping into violent criminals every time she leaves the house?"
                                      i think she says somewhere in the movie that she goes walking at night time now. and assumably most crimes would happen during the night , which could explain how she is being exposed to more violent people than what she was used to.
                                      she easily could have avoided the situation with the pimp in the car if she just kept walking, yet she took it upon herself to get involved, as with the drug dealer on the rooftop who she seeked out herself with full intention to kill. the truely 'convenient' moment was the convenience store shooting, which was portrayed as random and unlucky for foster

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                                        simon-appleton-99-816961 — 14 years ago(November 18, 2011 06:22 PM)

                                        Why are you criticising professionals who trying to grasp a relevant and important topic when you can't even grasp basic grammar?

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