Do you consider yourself English or British?
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Ms_Belladonna — 15 years ago(September 09, 2010 03:19 PM)
"That's the problem with Great Britain. At least three of the four contingents weren't asked about joining the Union. We (the English) just annexed them - violently in most cases - and now there is a divide in their own countries between GB supporters (Loyalists or Unionists) and the original native groups (in most cases considered the Rebels!). Catholic or protestant is just a religious badge that covers most of the real issues."
Pmsl..a Holywoodistic contempt for the facts there.
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Beuller — 15 years ago(September 13, 2010 07:35 AM)
hmmmm..
Jumping to conclusions Mr wolf, Naughty.
So, did Scotland speak for both Wales and Ireland when they signed the act in 1707? and after the Irish War of Independence, did most of Ireland not secede from the Union? (causing years of unrest in Northern Ireland between catholics and protestants - when the real argument is historically between native Irishman and English settlers/landowners).
Surely not a sign of a 'happy union then??
When did Wales ever have an 'act' to sign btw?
When the union of the kingdoms of England and Scotland was undertaken this followed hundreds, if not thousands, of years of warring kingdoms and you could hardly say that even to this day, our neighbours 'like' the historical facts that brought the union together.
And as for the actual act of Scottish parliament joing the Union . . well, those honest politicans and monarchists of the 18th century surely represented the 'masses' didn't they? (given a total lack of votes allowed for anyone who wasnt a major land owner and who were mainly, lets face it, Englishmen anyway?)
As an Englishman myself, I do not rely on Hollywood for my facts (prefer books mainly) so do yourself a favour and dont be so presumptuous. -
Lebowski85 — 17 years ago(February 01, 2009 01:59 PM)
tbh, my family heritage is german, american and English. I was born and raised in England though. I was brought up learning about English history and heritage in school, so i have a true sonse of belonging to England, i know nothing about Welsh or Scottish history and have no sense of belonging towards any of these nations. I am English and I have been raised as such, but if anything i feel more american, than scottish or welsh, seeing as i have family that come from thereI have quite a few welsh friends as i am from Bristol which is near the welsh boarder. And i travelled with some scottsmen in South America whilst meeting several people from other british nations over the years and our mentalities are the the same. So its not like we are too different as we share similar lifestyles in almost identical societiesbut due too our long historiesthere is definately a sense of seperation and identity for all of the nations.
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Lebowski85 — 17 years ago(February 08, 2009 09:37 AM)
Tbh mate, your names is bingedrinkningisamazing. I find it hard to take you seriously. I made a perfectly reasonable comment. clearly you got bullied at school and you think your big over a keyboard. get a life mate
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sub_mish — 16 years ago(May 10, 2009 04:42 PM)
"i am from Bristol which is near the welsh boarder."
Then you're even more f|ucking stupid and a dick.
Hey! Don't bad mouth my town!
that's my job!
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sub_mish — 16 years ago(May 10, 2009 04:39 PM)
British, simply because it's accurate. When England has its own seat at the UN I guess I will be English.
On the same note it really annoys me when foreigners (usually Americans) refer to Brits as "English" when England is merely the main province of our country (albeit the one I happen to have been born in, and live in now).
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