blacks are ok but Pakistanis arent? what a retard!!!
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mermaids998 — 13 years ago(February 23, 2013 05:23 PM)
Consider the fact that immigrants DO face employment discrimination in nearly every developed country. Even if you are a second generation citizen, having a foreign name can have a negative impact on employability and rate in which one can secure a job. Secondly, in many countries (the US included) some forms of government work are off-limits to people who are not citizens or long-term residents. If you are still working through the process of becoming a documented citizen, becoming educated and learning the language, you obviously won't be qualified for a lot of jobs-even if you were well educated in your country of origin.
The reality is it's not easy for anybody to find work but it is even more difficult when you are transitioning in a new country. Most people WANT to learn the language and cultural norms of the country they adopt and the cultural isolation isn't always voluntary. Even in "tolerant" Norway, Norwegian people generally keep a distance from immigrant communities. I'm not totally blaming them for that, but that adds to the difficulty foreign people have in assimilating or integrating into new societies. To say otherwise would be disingenuous -
saahlhok — 12 years ago(July 31, 2013 11:40 AM)
Norwegians have to put forth the effort of helping immigrants assimilate.
It's not enough to permit entry and not reach out. Of course they will
clan up, but aren't you doing the same? I understand it's difficult,
uncomfortable & for many unwanted. However, this was a decision of your
government & imagine how it feels to for them to be placed in a completely
different culture. Reach out and embrace, as you would want/need
if the roles were reversed.
Norwegians are amongst some of the kindest people I have ever met & along
with Swedes., their culture is beautiful, in my experience. I'm neither a country man
or an immigrant, so my view is surely skewed.
Understandably immigrants are a base threat to ones way of life,
I get that, but creating hostility within your own borders.. via
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alexandernordby-358-222914 — 12 years ago(November 30, 2013 07:50 AM)
If I was in a different country and I wanted something, I would reach out. I wouldn't expect someone to accommodate me. If an immigrant reaches out to me, I won't turn them away -depending on what they want of course- but I won't seek out immigrants and reach out, whatever that means. You also have to realize that with the kind of social system we have, that economically speaking, immigration is terrible. If we weren't a welfare state, I wouldn't really care that much about immigration at all, as long as they weren't violent, or actively opposing assimilation. And you're right. The unknown does make people uncomfortable, and immigrants are unknown. Norwegians are private people. The only way you're going to fix that problems is with government mandated immigrant hours or something, which sounds like an Orwellain nightmare.
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saahlhok — 12 years ago(November 30, 2013 08:31 AM)
alexander, I get it. It's difficult for all involved. By reaching out I meant
(within in reason) because you don't know who's really who amongst your own,
never mind those from another culture & mindset.
I guess it's akin to being a house guest. It's up to the host to set the tone.
Immigrants are more than likely suffering from some form of PTSD, what, having
to cut and run from their country and be dropped into another one, that
in this case is almost polar opposite. Language, religion, lifestyle, etc.
it's a lot.
It's also a huge adjustment for the host country, but at the end of the day
it is their resources that will need to sustain them until they become
more ensconced in the their new environs. The last thing anyone should
settle for is tolerance which is a blight to the actual humanitarian gesture.
By tolerance I mean, not truly making the effort, people sense that, that's
not going to work.
It's hard though, I do agreeeasier said than done, but not impossible. -
Pania8407 — 12 years ago(August 25, 2013 07:27 AM)
Milky only had an opportunity because he was with the boys he was trying to recruit. If he treated him like a different person then none of them would have stayed with him.
Even if Milky had decided to join them, Combo would have ending up beating him either way.