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ruminerpianogrl — 16 years ago(February 21, 2010 09:38 AM)
I felt so bad for that guy. You're right, you could tell his life was changed entirely when he killed the boy. He didn't need to endure such a horribly, gruesome death. But nobody answered the OP's other question: do you think there was a place for the key to fit in?
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sugarlullaby-1 — 16 years ago(March 06, 2010 08:24 PM)
I also felt bad for the guy. I think the boy dying was the black guy's fault as much as it was the father's fault. In the brief flash back in the middle of the movie, you see that the kid got away from his father and rode right into the street and the dude hits the kid. With the guy being drunk, he probably didn't have the mental capacity to react in time to stop. But, with that being said, the father should have been watching the kid more closely, and kid shouldn't have darted into the street like that. So the kid dying was not all the black guy's fault, it was just a series of unfortunate events, carelessnes, and bad luck.
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Princess_Of_SAW — 15 years ago(January 14, 2011 06:45 PM)
yes it was, he was driving drunk, and in a residential area so he shouldn't have been going so fast that he killed the kid.
i felt nothing when the black guy died, i would not have even tried to save him.and even if the judge said i'd be an accomplice, i'd just say 'fvck you, you save him then'
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forthesafetyofpuppies — 16 years ago(March 25, 2010 10:50 PM)
Aye, it's the only real look-away point in the series for me. Not so much the Exorcist-twist of the neck - because that's killing him and providing relief - but the arms and legs. Eek. Plus, the actor does a grand job of conveying the horror.
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ianmitchell-45214 — 10 years ago(September 06, 2015 12:40 PM)
I gotta admit, quite a few of the traps throughout the series made me squirm, sweat and look the other way.
I remember the torture rack scene all too well. Yeesh, talk about traumatising. It didn't help that the judge had previously been in an equally uncomfortable trap beforehand. Seeing the judge tied down by the neck while pig guts fill up over him is an awful way to go.
The other saw films all had at least one trap that managed to make me feel very uncomfortable. The first Saw had the dentist chair and the reverse bear trap. I've rewatched the film not long ago and the dentist chair no longer works on me but first time around I was horrified.
The 2nd Saw film had that man in the furnacey thing, I think. Didn't like that one at all.
The 4th one and 5th one had a few too, which were either gross or horrible to imagine being in. One of them had that cop with the water box on his head. I vaguely remember that part with the same cop being crushed in a room with enclosing walls. Ugh! Never in any other films have we ever seen that trap work on someone (except for maybe 13 ghosts).
I can't remember which one but the blonde woman in he hair trap made me very uncomfortable.
Also, one of the saw films had 5 or 6 people wake up in a room with a noose around their neck. They had to smash open a glass box or lose their head. The woman that doesn't make it really looked like she was genuinely panicking for her life. I hate that part.
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filmbuff1974 — 15 years ago(June 22, 2010 01:46 PM)
Without a doubt the most repulsive and cruelest torture device in the whole franchise. Amanda must have thought up that one!
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YouFightLikeACow — 15 years ago(June 30, 2010 08:38 AM)
This trap, and for some reason the Pendulum trap in Saw V, are the only traps that I have trouble watching.
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Mechan1calAn1mal — 15 years ago(August 08, 2010 03:51 AM)
Interesting topic. Yes, I felt exactly the same way and my dumbass went to see this IN THE THEATER BY MYSELF (except a handful of random moviegoers) because everyone else was either working or doing something else that day. Movies don't tend to bother me but this one was disturbing. It's the only one I won't watch anymore and it pisses me off because it's still a good story.
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jnericsonx — 15 years ago(October 29, 2010 03:46 PM)
Listen to the Tobin/Shawnee commentary-when that trap comes up, even Tobin goes "Oh boy", or something like that, and comments on how Shawnee is not looking at the screen right now. That trap is the worst, namely cause I have a phobia about breaking bones, legs, etc.
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xxsilverrevolverxx — 15 years ago(November 02, 2010 05:30 PM)
It's the only trap I have issues with, that and the saw blades in SAW V with the blood sacrifice.
To answer your PS, Jeff definitely could have saved the black dude he just took too long.
As for there being a place for the key Possible SAW IV Spoiler
Since there's a flashback in SAW VI showing Hoffman's involvement in the construction of The Rack, there's a small chance that the trap could have been rigged to not be stopped by the key OR there not being a matching keyhole. However, I think if Jeff had gotten the key and made it in time, he could've saved the guy.
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