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    pappa-b-bear — 9 years ago(July 24, 2016 12:45 PM)

    Yet you didn't offer an intelligent/ reasonable counterpoint to anything I said.

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      lord_kobel — 9 years ago(July 25, 2016 08:33 AM)

      Because, as I said, you're talking bollocks. You brought up ID as if it was anything other than a piss poor attempt to shoehorn creationism into education in order to continue one of the forms of child abuse inherent in christianity. there's no need to refute that, except to point out that it's utter bollocks.

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        pappa-b-bear — 9 years ago(September 01, 2016 05:54 PM)

        No I pointed out the irrationality of life and complex systems coming from random chance due to their inherent nature. You had and still have no intelligent response.

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          scootergirl9988 — 9 years ago(October 30, 2016 05:21 PM)

          Random chance is irrational? Fine. Prove it. After all, the onus lies on those who say the universe and everything in it was designed for a reason to disprove the scientific theories that, through empirical data and mathematics, all point to the contrary.
          You have nothing, absolutely nothing, to back up any theory of intelligent design by an omnipotent being. All you have are beliefs and yet you call atheists irrational. OK. Whatever.
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            pappa-b-bear — 9 years ago(December 26, 2016 11:43 AM)

            I made the case for intelligent design. I cited the observed nature of life and complex systems. Believing in random eventuality is like believing a monkey could write a coherent novel if he bangs on a keyboard long enough. I think this is irrational.

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              pappa-b-bear — 9 years ago(December 26, 2016 03:23 PM)

              Yes random chance is irrational. Believing all this is a random eventuality is like believing a monkey could write a coherent novel if he bangs on a keyboard long enough. It's illogical. The perpetual nature of life and the nature of code and complex systems is evidence (not proof) of intelligent design. If you were intellectually honest, you'd see that.

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                desepticon — 9 years ago(January 06, 2017 12:08 AM)

                You display an ill-conceived notion of evolution. Evolution is far from random.
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                are random; however, natural selection (and myriad other processes like sexual selection) are decidedly not random. If a random mutation produces a fitness (reproductive) benefit, those mutations propagate throughout a species. If they are deleterious (decrease reproductive success), they are winnowed from the gene pool. Again, this is not a random process.
                If you wish to learn more about what evolution is actually about you really should pick up any number of books that are available for laymen. You are merely attacking a straw man with your nonsense about randomness.
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                  pappa-b-bear — 9 years ago(January 09, 2017 06:49 AM)

                  I never stated evolution was random I wasn't even talking about evolution at all. I was talking about the theory that the first living cell came from random eventuality of conditions. Do you understand now?

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                    desepticon — 9 years ago(January 17, 2017 07:54 AM)

                    Your reckoning of probability goes down quite a bit when things are happening on a planet-wide scale over billions of years.
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                      therefdotcom — 9 years ago(December 26, 2016 02:03 PM)

                      but the thought that unlimited fantastillions of events per microsecond happen by design seems rational to you?

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                          kubrickation — 9 years ago(September 01, 2016 04:52 PM)

                          Christ would not ask for human sacrifice to appease a demon, nor would He demand a child sacrifice.
                          Have you actually read the Bible? Cause God does exactly this on multiple occasions.
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                            pappa-b-bear — 9 years ago(September 01, 2016 05:53 PM)

                            You don't seem very theologically educated. This person said Christ didn't demand such sacrifice. Please provide one single instance where he did.

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                              kubrickation — 9 years ago(October 15, 2016 03:56 PM)

                              So God and Christ aren't one and the same?
                              Your ideology is ridiculously confusing. No, not confusing-that would imply there was something of substance to understand. It's just plain ridiculous.
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                                pappa-b-bear — 9 years ago(January 09, 2017 06:45 AM)

                                God required a sacrifice for man's sin which he later provided himself. Yeah it's complex in ways.

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                                  pappa-b-bear — 9 years ago(January 09, 2017 06:46 AM)

                                  But he never required human sacrifice. The instance with Abraham was to show him that he had faith.

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                                      fountaincap — 9 years ago(August 23, 2016 05:13 PM)

                                      It's Hollywood. Not limited to Stephen King. The same kind of negative portrayal of Muslims or Jews would be denounced as "racism". It's getting quite annoying. I am in no way suggesting that Christianity is above-criticism or ridicule (I'm an atheist), but the double-standard that Hollywood has for the portrayal of religions shows a clear bias.

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                                        Minus_The_Beer — 9 years ago(August 29, 2016 08:20 AM)

                                        Who says she's representative of all Christians? Seemed kind of clear to me that she was insane, with or without the faith.
                                        If anything, she was more of a fanatic/cult-type. Doesn't necessarily mean the film was bashing Christianity. Try harder to find something to be offended by.
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                                          kubrickation — 9 years ago(September 01, 2016 04:49 PM)

                                          No, religious people are typically pretty stupid and irritating. I think she got it right.
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