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Seriously, sometimes it's like the writers don't know their own shows half as well

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    Trendrick — 9 years ago(November 09, 2016 11:26 AM)

    It was
    Sheldon's apartment first
    Seriously, sometimes it's like the writers don't know their own shows half as well as the audience.
    Reminds me of the kids at our Day Care Center and their
    "I-had-it-first!"
    jags.
    1.
    CONSENTING ADULTS
    came to an arrangement THAT SUITSwithout getting all proprietary.
    2. We are talking about something that
    belongs
    to no one involved.
    3. If the writers didn't
    know their own show
    ; then they wouldn't have bother to give an explanation of why the living arrangements were done one way and not another.

    DON'T UNDERSTAND THE
    After all, the switching around had to do with living spaces not partners.
    Enduring commercials is the price you pay for free television.

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      jaynekranc — 9 years ago(November 09, 2016 03:00 PM)

      We are talking about something that belongs to no one involved.
      If it's Sheldon on the lease, it's his apartment.

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        ppllkk — 9 years ago(November 09, 2016 04:06 PM)

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        It was Sheldon's apartment first
        DUH
        Are you making some point?

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          mybabyblue — 9 years ago(November 09, 2016 04:14 PM)

          Obviously, if you can read between the lines but I am happy to write it out for you: Leonard should have to move rather than Sheldon.

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            ppllkk — 9 years ago(November 09, 2016 09:06 PM)

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            Leonard should have to move rather than Sheldon.
            It seems that you are aware of a dispute that I am not aware of. Are you saying that there is a disagreement about which of them should move? Are you saying that Leonard is claiming the right to keep the apartment? And Sheldon is objecting?
            I seem to have missed that. When did it happen?
            It is possible that such a dispute could come up, but you are saying that it already has?

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              mybabyblue — 9 years ago(November 09, 2016 10:24 PM)

              Well considering that the current situation is that Amy and Sheldon are in Penny's apartment, talking about getting a new place and Leonard and Penny living at Sheldon's place I would assume so, yes. Besides, Sheldon kept complaining about them wanting to use his room as storage, which they kept answering with "you won't be living here".

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                SeinfeldFriend — 9 years ago(November 09, 2016 10:46 PM)

                I do agree with you on this one. It is out of character for Sheldon to accept so much change in one go. They were in Pennys apartment for the experiment, but once they decided to live together, it makes no sense for him to ever stop arguing that it's his room. And, although this is not real life, I couldn't live in a place where the previous tenant spent a lot of time talking about what you have done with their roomI would want my own space.

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                  ppllkk — 9 years ago(November 10, 2016 08:36 AM)

                  SeinfeldFriend
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                  but once they decided to live together, it makes no sense for him to ever stop arguing that it's his room.
                  Well, the experiment was conducted successfully in a neutral space. They may both want to continue it in a neutral space.
                  I had assumed that Amy would move into Sheldon's apartment, Leonard and Penny would go back to Penny's apartment, and they would share living space as if it were one very large apartment. That does not seem to be happening.

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                    emilyrose15 — 9 years ago(November 12, 2016 09:14 AM)

                    That's what I thought to be honest.
                    Sheldon wants his spot untouched and now he is going to be moving to an entirely different apartment? It doesn't make sense, his spot will be gone too.
                    I thought they would do as you said to keep the essential dynamic of them being room mates without living together anymore, kind of like in friends when Chandler moved out, it was across the hall so Joey was always there.
                    I think to mess around with the living so much may be too much of a change.

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                      ppllkk — 9 years ago(November 12, 2016 11:09 AM)

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                      I think to mess around with the living so much may be too much of a change.
                      Sheldon is aggressively trying to have a baby with Amy.
                      Now, it is entirely possible that Sheldon does not recognize that will mean a lot of change. Does he think that he will save humanity by fathering a child with Amy, but then the baby will somehow magically grow up without changing anything in his life?
                      I wonder if Sheldon has actually thought through what having a baby means? Amy has.

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                        kerryedavis — 9 years ago(November 12, 2016 01:57 PM)

                        Well, this "Sheldon wants to make a baby" may continue at some level, or like most other things about Sheldon "changing" it may last just long enough for one - or several - jokes. Which means it will be forgotten in the next episode or soon thereafter.
                        But if Sheldon's future behavior is as off-the-wall as he was this last time, I think it will become pretty boring. And if Amy doesn't dump him over it, then she'll be seriously compromised as a character too.

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                          emilyrose15 — 9 years ago(November 13, 2016 01:50 AM)

                          I don't mean for the characters, I mean as a show, I think the writers may be going a bit too far.

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                            ppllkk — 9 years ago(November 13, 2016 08:18 AM)

                            emilyrose15
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                            I don't mean for the characters, I mean as a show, I think the writers may be going a bit too far.
                            Well, it is certainly more interesting than what has been going on.

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                              slyle — 9 years ago(November 10, 2016 08:01 AM)

                              Wasn't one of the parameters of the experiment that they lived in a "neutral" living space rather than one or the other persons' apartment? Moving into Sheldon's apartment would invalidate the results of the experiment, which was considered a success. I can't see Sheldon agreeing to changing such a major parameter in this situation.

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                                mikebryner — 9 years ago(November 10, 2016 08:54 AM)

                                Yes, but another parameter was a set time period- 5 weeks. This discussion is about what happens after that.

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                                  seldon913 — 9 years ago(November 10, 2016 09:30 AM)

                                  Yes, but with Sheldon thinking as a scientist he would seek to change as few variables as possible when going from the test environment to production.

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                                    ppllkk — 9 years ago(November 10, 2016 10:15 AM)

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                                    Yes, but with Sheldon thinking as a scientist he would seek to change as few variables as possible when going from the test environment to production.
                                    That is an interesting point and quite worth discussion.
                                    But that is far from the issue of who "owns" the apartment.

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                                      ppllkk — 9 years ago(November 10, 2016 10:06 AM)

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                                      This discussion is about what happens after that.
                                      It might be interesting to speculate about that, but I would rather wait and see what happens.
                                      But that is not the issue that the OP raised. They raised the issue of who has the right to Sheldon's apartment.
                                      There is probably a legal answer to that, but the real question is the moral answer. There can be a lot of opinions about that, but there is no objective answer. I would rather wait until the issue comes up than open that can of worms now.
                                      I find discussions in which there is nothing objective to discuss quite uninteresting. They are just a series of subjective opinions, usually very strongly held.
                                      Presumably the OP thinks that the fact that it was Sheldon's apartment first gives him some special rights to it. It could equally well be argued that Leonard has been there long enough that it is theirs together. I don't believe that there is any convincing, objective answer to that.
                                      I see no point to discussing that when the issue has not come up, and the available evidence at this point, is that it is not going to come up.
                                      Sorry, but I am just really tired of stupid discussions.
                                      P. S. This is quite different from
                                      Friends
                                      in which there was something very special about the apartment it was rent-controlled because of Monica's grandmother and in which it would not have been possible for Rachel to take over the apartment.

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                                        kerryedavis — 9 years ago(November 10, 2016 02:16 PM)

                                        Presumably the OP thinks that the fact that it was Sheldon's apartment first gives him some special rights to it. It could equally well be argued that Leonard has been there long enough that it is theirs together. I don't believe that there is any convincing, objective answer to that.
                                        State laws vary, but especially with the "Roommate Agreement" Leonard probably has similar tenant rights vs Sheldon, as Sheldon has vs the building owner. Which means Sheldon couldn't just make Leonard move out, if Leonard didn't want to. He would have to go through some kind of eviction process. That can happen in some places even without any written agreement, just by letting someone stay in a place for long enough.
                                        That said, the building owner doesn't have any kind of agreement with Leonard, so if for some reason Sheldon were to be evicted, Leonard would have to go too.

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                                          joestl — 9 years ago(November 12, 2016 07:32 PM)

                                          I wonder how they're going about paying the rent. Is Penny still paying on the 1 room apartment while Sheldon and Leonard are splitting payment on the 2 room apartment?

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