Don't know if this has been asked before, but when Bryan tries to identify the traffickers at the time he's still in Ame
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TheAdvocator — 11 years ago(June 03, 2014 10:46 PM)
Ready my post again. It still makes no sense and it's still a plot hole IMO.
Even if that was a legitimate problem it's not a plot hole. What exactly are you finding wrong with it?
Again that's not what a plot hole is.
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SinJinQLA — 12 years ago(May 23, 2013 10:42 AM)
The way I saw it was that girls travelling from, say, America to France might be more naive/excited/culture shocked. So having a suave foreign guy approach them and call them princess would work wonders to drop their defenses. I'm not saying EU girls are smarter or anything, but they might be less awestruck by, say, a French accent, than an American girl who has never left the States would be. Therefore it would just be easier to get them to go along with you or invite you in or whatever. In other words American girls are easily wooed by foreign guys.
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massawar-1 — 12 years ago(May 26, 2013 02:00 PM)
They used to bring girls from Europe to America and then turn them into prostitutes. But that was pricey, because of having to pay to transport them from Europe to America. So they started kidnapping vacationing girls IN Europe. And you are right that Western families have more money, but the kidnappers have no intentions of ransoming them. Doing a ransom is tricky and might lead to them getting caught. They strictly deal in taking girls and using them as prostitutes. So that's why its cheaper to kidnap travelers, because you don't have to pay transportation fees.
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bloopville — 12 years ago(October 04, 2013 10:16 AM)
Despite the "explanation" in the movie, your criticism is valid. Prostitution, like any other business, tries to manage risk.
There is a huge supply of attractive and reasonably educated girls and women from Eastern Europe who are low cost resources for the scum that manage them. Some are convinced to come here with the old tactic of a job promise, and then the standard prostitute- making brutality, but many of the girls that we see here in Europe are tech savvy, city women who know exactly what they are getting into when they come to western Europe.
I can only imagine how hopeless life must be in Romania or Belarus that standing on the street on an Italian ring road waiting for an unwashed truck driver is a better alternative, but life in the former soviet bloc is tough. I feel for these girls.
Here in my part of Italy, it is mostly Romanian gangs that "manage" the girls. They had a little territorial shoot out the other night, and the town fathers cracked down on them and put them out of business for a month.
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TheCommenteer — 12 years ago(December 09, 2013 02:41 AM)
And you're saying these groups aren't capable of taking risks because they feel invincible? Besides, they're not the ones who manage these girls who are more "expensive". They're on-sold. Think of them like the middle man, picking up merchandise and selling it on to the consumer. Their supply would be based on demand, and just because these two girls were taken doesn't mean the majority of their time focuses on these kinds of girls.
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ydobon-1 — 11 years ago(September 13, 2014 06:54 AM)
Don't know if this has been asked before, but when Bryan tries to identify the traffickers at the time he's still in America, Bryan's friend/ex-partner whatever says someting like
I want to know how his friend Sam was able to figure out the name of the guy that Bryan talked to on the phone. All they had to go on was a few words from Kim and two words on the phone. I'm sorry, but that's not enough to ID someone.
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Kent_Kainer — 10 years ago(May 11, 2015 05:02 PM)
Its one of its lame points.
Imagine the ruckus when its known that repeatedly European and American tourists disappear in Paris.
Tourists! Not some poor girls from poor families in poor countries.
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met76 — 10 years ago(October 18, 2015 05:10 PM)
The kidnappers don't want any ransom from their families, they kidnap to use them as prostitutes.
Watch the film carefully you f#cking schmuck.
It's not about ransom. My point is that American tourist girls likely come from relatively wealthy parents, these wealthy parents together would have a lot of political influence and would put pressure towards embassies, governments or police agencies in America/Europe/France, which would put the human traffickers under great danger. Eastern Europeans families in comparison are a lot less wealthy and have less influence to crack down these criminals. -
knifeparty2004 — 10 years ago(January 09, 2016 07:38 PM)
How can wealthy families have any impact once their children have essentially disappeared? I understand the point that your getting at. That its riskier to abduct wealthy young women than those from poor backgrounds but it is implied in the film that once the girls are taken they are never seen from again.
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Dark_Sithlord — 10 years ago(December 30, 2015 01:42 PM)
If Western tourists got kidnapped in Europe, their families may have more resources than Eastern families to get them back, but they would still be bound by international laws. For example, in
Taken
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Manton29 — 10 years ago(January 19, 2016 07:23 AM)
"Western authorities would have no jurisdiction in France."
France IS a 'Western Authority'.
Or maybe I'm wrong, maybe USA, Canada, and perhaps the UK, are Western, and everything else is Eastern and/or 3rd World?
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!!!deleted!!! (55817158) — 9 years ago(May 10, 2016 10:15 PM)
I've read the other posts in this thread and all I can say is, OP- who really cares whether or not in real life it is more efficient to kidnap Eastern European girls or Western girls Either way, the movie explained why in fact THESE criminals in THIS movie prefer to kidnap Western girls and the explanation is quite logical and easy to understand.
Are you a human trafficker yourself? If not, then don't act like you 100% know the definitive answer as to the most effective types of women to capture and sell to sex slavery, lol
It's a movie mate, and the explanation as to why they targeted Bryan's daughter and her friend is simple enough to follow.