Is GOT misogynistic?
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andrewrrrr — 9 years ago(December 25, 2016 02:00 PM)
Keep swearing and calling people 'retards' over the Internet, it's a very accurate demonstration of your intelligence and capability for conversation. You can keep looking up to and admiring me, I don't care if you're demonstrably an idiot.
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CharlesTheBold — 9 years ago(December 25, 2016 07:21 PM)
The plot deals with a culture which is mostly obsessed with "manly" valor, and doesnt take women seriously unless they are good fighters as well ( Arya, Yara, Brienne). Danny is a special case because lot of characters thinks she's a goddess. Even Margery commented that nobody will take her seriously unless she has a baby that can perpetuate a dynasty.
The CULTURE is misogynistic. Can't say whether or not the WRITERS are. -
D_Stormborn — 9 years ago(December 25, 2016 07:44 PM)
Middle ages, duh. Look it up. And those other boards must be very thick if those don't recognize what GoT is about. Even if Jon prevails, he's more of a girl at 5 feet and being prettier than most girls.
"Art is magic delivered from the lie of being truth"
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andrewrrrr — 9 years ago(December 25, 2016 08:49 PM)
One of the posters I had been arguing about it with had never even seen the series before and was claiming that it was misogynistic due to what they read about it online about how women get treated like property and how it added rapes that weren't in the book. Yes, that was a terrible argument, I don't think the show is misogynistic but I was curious if anyone here felt it was and if they had any better points than that person.
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RoyWilliamsbeatsCoachK — 9 years ago(December 25, 2016 11:03 PM)
Middle ages, duh. Look it up. And those other boards must be very thick if those don't recognize what GoT is about. Even if Jon prevails, he's more of a girl at 5 feet and being prettier than most girls.
Haha must have missed the middle ages lesson in history about Westeros and Winterfell. Maybe they were located near Middle Earth and their moon was Endor.
To any other young person, please please please read history books and educate yourselves. It is scary that there are people that actually treat Game of Thrones like history instead of fantasy. I shutter to think about the number of young people who think Harry Potter is real. -
D_Stormborn — 9 years ago(December 26, 2016 03:24 PM)
Game of Thrones is deeply rooted in history, such as but not limited to the War of Roses with Yorks vs Lancasters (Starks vs Lannisters) where Dany clearly is Henry Tudor. Plus we have historical figures such as George Plantagenet (Theon), Edward of Westminster (Joffrey), as well as Zoroastrianism (Lord of Light) and Hadrians
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"Art is magic delivered from the lie of being truth"
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jsagotsky-1 — 9 years ago(December 26, 2016 12:10 AM)
There are more strong female characters, both good and bad, than any other show on television,
I think the misogynistic elements come from HBO, not GRRM. They threw in a lot of naked women, especially in the early seasons, that had not plot purpose. Like a scene of prostitute training. And so on.
I think there is no question that HBO likes showing nudity, but I bet it's ccld blooded, for ratings. My understanding of misogynistic would be that they always show women as weak, or evil, and they certainly don't do that.
And admit it, when the warning says nudity, you are looking for it, aren't you? -
Tommen_Saperstein — 9 years ago(December 28, 2016 07:26 AM)
Yes and no, mostly no.
It was more true of seasons 1-2 than it is now.Live Deliciously!
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RomaVictorrrr — 9 years ago(December 28, 2016 09:08 AM)
Sure
Some titillating misogyny that I won't complain about
Some misogyny that fits the medieval times the show and book is set it
And some seeming misogyny only because women are getting hurt, which makes the stories even more satisfying when the women start to win or get justice -
CharlesTheBold — 9 years ago(December 29, 2016 06:34 AM)
It depends on how you define "misogynistic". The definition I've heard is that it insults the ethics or intelligence of women as a group. The nudity in GOT doesn't really do that. Margery came across as clever even when she didn't have much clothes on. Danny is the only throne claimant who tends to worry about the duties of a ruler. If they were treated merely as sex objects, THAT would be misogynistic.
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CharlesTheBold — 9 years ago(December 29, 2016 12:34 PM)
If they were the only women in the story it would have been misogynistic. But they were offset by positive women like Caitlyn and Danny. As I said, it depends on how you define "misogynistic".
And at least it was an unusual solution to how to get viewers to sit still to expository speeches. A lot better than that dancing hunchback in PRISONER OF AZKABAN during Fudge's speech.