OT: If you were Jon, whom would you marry?
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KillTheWabbits — 9 years ago(November 27, 2016 03:05 PM)
Jon should marry one of Tormond's daughters. Basically anybody but Dany. I would rather Jon end up being gay than marry Dany.
Being gay in this world does not
release you from your obligation
to marry if you are a member of
a noble house, particularly if
you are the heir. -
otter — 9 years ago(November 27, 2016 04:59 PM)
Yeah, the only way to get out of the obligation to marry is to take holy orders, join the NW, or get into the kingsguard. (BTW, you'd think that the NW would be full of gay men fleeing arranged marriages)
As for who Jon should marry, he's not going to marry Lyanna Mormont or Tormund's daughter, because he already has the loyalty of Tormund and Bear Island. If he marries for a political alliance, it'd be to bring someone to his side who isn't already there, or to eliminate a threat such as Sansa's right to rule the North. Frankly, there aren't a lot of good potential alliances on the horizon - a few episodes it would have been logical for him to marry a Frey and secure allies on his southern borders, but now that Walder is
dead
they must be in chaos and useless to him.
Really, there are no good political brides in the north of Westeros at the moment, except Sansa.
Seventy-seven courses and a regicide, never a wedding like it! -
Marendil — 9 years ago(November 27, 2016 05:10 PM)
Alys Karstark would be a candidate, but I doubt the show would diverge from the books in this regard and it appears she will end up with another there if I recall correctly. A Thenn wasn't it? I suppose GRRM could change that, but I really doubt it.
The only reason I mention her is I think I recall reading something about a casting call which sounded like it might have been her, but it would be a real longshot.
If Jon lives my guess is he gets Daenarys.
'Honi soit qui mal y pense' -
Marendil — 9 years ago(November 27, 2016 10:05 AM)
Why do people keep saying Dany is Jon's aunt as if they don't share way, way more DNA than that? They share almost as much DNA as siblings and there is already a genetic defect in Targs exacerbated by excessive inbreeding. Madness.
Good point, if you look at the Targaryen royal family you start to wonder just how many non-Targaryen genes they
could
have. It would seem to me they'd share many more alleles than a typical brother-sister combo possibly could.
'Honi soit qui mal y pense' -
otter — 9 years ago(November 27, 2016 04:10 PM)
Actually, the inbreeding won't be much of a problem, since Dany firmly believes herself to be infertile. Since Dario didn't get her pregnant (and neither did her second husband in the books) even though they got it on without birth control, she is likely correct. She'd probably tell Jon that before they went through with a political marriage, and he might be okay with that because that would leave Sansa as his heir, and he knows damn well that she's the rightful ruler of the North.
And Dany is a beautiful, sexy woman, and Jon has a lot of, um, pent-up hormones to deal with. Marriage to Dany might make him REALLY happy, even without the possibility of kids.
Seventy-seven courses and a regicide, never a wedding like it! -
otter — 9 years ago(November 27, 2016 04:48 PM)
"When the sun rises in the west and sets in the east," said Mirri Maz Duur. "When the seas go dry and mountains blow in the wind like leaves. When your womb quickens again, and you bear a living child. Then he will return, and not before."
If it's possible for the sun to rise in the west and the mountains to blow away, it's not possible for humanity to survive the cataclysm that would lead up to those events. Therefore MMD's curse or prophecy is meant to mean that Dany will never bear a living child, and Drogo will never come back. Of course we have no idea if her power to curse and or prophesy is 100% accurate, but Dany seems to believe it implicitly.
So IMHO Dany is the last Targaryan, and her dragons are the last dragons. Because it's not like three dragons and only one of them female is enough to provide a viable gene pool, talk about inbreeding.
Seventy-seven courses and a regicide, never a wedding like it! -
otter — 9 years ago(November 27, 2016 05:09 PM)
Nope, not convinced that those are metaphors!
I think MMD meant to curse Dany with infertility, which was letting her off easy compared to Drogo or the baby.
Seventy-seven courses and a regicide, never a wedding like it!