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    otter — 9 years ago(November 25, 2016 04:32 PM)

    We'll never know, unless we see him in a direct matchup against the other serious surviving great swordsmen (and women).
    All we know for sure is that he's better than Ramsay Bolton.
    Seventy-seven courses and a regicide, never a wedding like it!

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      vjfoogie — 9 years ago(November 25, 2016 04:41 PM)

      We also will never see Dayne or Oberyn face Jon, but we all know they would ruin his life.

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        Stayoutofmy_Territory — 9 years ago(November 25, 2016 04:44 PM)

        i miss the redviper.

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          vjfoogie — 9 years ago(November 25, 2016 05:09 PM)

          Same :(. Such a great character!

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            mmirjam — 9 years ago(November 26, 2016 04:14 AM)

            We also will never see Dayne or Oberyn face Jon, but we all know they would ruin his life.
            We never see Dayne, Hound, Mountain, Oberyn, ser Baryster, Robert Baratheon face Jaime Lannister but he is known as the best, before he lost his hand.
            Jaime have never confronted Mountain, even when he was supposed to protect Rheagar children, he let them die. He never fight Robert, but he was convinced that he will win because he fights in turnaments and won.
            He admitted Robb was better than him.
            Jon tends to underestimate himself.
            We don't realy know who will win against who, untill they fight.
            And when they did fight, Howland Reed stabbed Arthur Dayne and won, Brienne almost killed Hound itd.

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              vjfoogie — 9 years ago(November 26, 2016 08:22 AM)

              You first point was basically agreeing with me. Also, Jaime is NOT known as better than Dayne. Dayne is known as the best swordsman who ever lived.

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                otter — 9 years ago(November 26, 2016 04:48 PM)

                And I do like how the show demonstrated that great swordsmanship isn't everything.
                As for Jon, we might have a better idea of his overall ability if he'd ever entered the kind of big tournaments where he could have fought against Jamie, Brienne, Oberyn, the Mountain and Loras, or the other famous fighters of the age. Instead, he joined the NW and did some actual fighting.
                Seventy-seven courses and a regicide, never a wedding like it!

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                  ChristopherSolomon — 9 years ago(November 26, 2016 09:02 AM)

                  Jon tends to underestimate himself.
                  Jon Snow also seems to have this Incredible Hulk power of getting increased strength when he is enraged, happens several times in the book and on the show. Most of the time (especially against his brother) I'm sure he's held back a little.

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                        TheCheetahPeach — 9 years ago(November 26, 2016 02:29 AM)

                        I think he could put up a pretty good fight against these 3 and maybe even impress them but could he beat the hound: no. brienne: I think it would be pretty even with brienne barely winning. Bronn: no, but either way he'd be impressed.
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                          PhantomStrife — 9 years ago(November 26, 2016 10:57 AM)

                          I rewatched that fight between The Hound and Brienne. Damn was it cringeworthy. Although not as cringeworthy as Jorah, Bronn, Jaime or Sand Snakes fighting. No GOT actor but Kit can actually sell themselves as swordsmen. Pedro and Luke Roberts were using stunt doubles. Kit does his own stunts, while some others can't even ride off on a horse on their own.
                          Back to the topic, Bronn would lose, and both Brienne and The Hound are overrated.

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                              FutureKingsII — 9 years ago(November 25, 2016 04:42 PM)

                              He does seem to drop his sword an awful lot.

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                                byachmon — 9 years ago(November 25, 2016 06:06 PM)

                                In the books, Quorin Halfhand was better than he. He let him win. When Jon got back, he practiced with someone who was better than him. He admitted Robb was better than him.
                                So, no. He's not the best.
                                Wait..What?

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                                  articappleman — 9 years ago(November 26, 2016 02:53 AM)

                                  Wrong he said rob was better with a lance in the books

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                                      arsty — 9 years ago(November 26, 2016 01:54 AM)

                                      Hard to say.
                                      The result of killing each other could be much different by many reasons.
                                      Emotion, Stamina, Skill, Luck, Weather, Surrounding(Arya defeated senior assassin apprentice in darkness), Experience, Weapon(Good weapon could destroy bad ones easily) etc. Jon is young and trained. But he is still lack of experience. Also his attack range is a little short because height. Brienne's range could be longer than him when they take the same weapon.
                                      I think so far, Mountain is the best Powerful type fighter still alive(If you could call it "alive").
                                      Bronn is the best Dexterous type warrior still alive.
                                      Jon & Brienne are both well trained Knight type(Defend expert or comprehensive) warrior still alive so far.
                                      Tormund, Hound, Daari, Grey Worm, the guys above mentioned stand on second line.
                                      Jorah may stand after third line. He is old after all.
                                      Arya's teacher is definitely the best assassin but not a fighter.
                                      Too shame that good archers like Ramsey, Ygritte are all dead. The good one still alive whom I could recall is the one in brotherhood. And I couldn't even tell his name!

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                                        FlayedMan — 9 years ago(November 26, 2016 02:03 PM)

                                        ^That archer was Anguy

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                                          D_Stormborn — 9 years ago(November 26, 2016 02:01 AM)

                                          Daario, Bronn, Brienne and Sandor would wipe the floor with Jon. The NK probably, too, now that Jon was so nice to warn him about Valyrian steel.
                                          He's better as the delinquent recruits at the wall, though.


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