hip hop and rap are NOT music
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Archived from the IMDb Discussion Forums — Hip-Hop & Rap
GrumpyBastard — 4 years ago(January 24, 2022 01:41 AM)
I just noticed this hippety hoppety rappety part listed under Music. This is WRONG as hap hup rop has got nothing to do with music. hep hap and rup is just talking to a dumb beat, no more no less. Oh, and it kills your braincells (judging by my oberservation of who actually listens to it).
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GrumpyBastard — 4 years ago(January 25, 2022 01:17 AM)
rappety hippety hoppety does not have something one would normally refer to as a 'song'. In rip rop and hap you just have a duration; the length of time in which the beat machine is doing its boom boom boom thing.
An actual song for example would have a melody, rep hop and rup doesn't have a melody, it's just boom boom and someone talking, preferrably about bitches and bling bling.
Singing is also unknown to the hib hob and fap scene, as - see above - there's no melody to sing to, there's just ghetto scribble to talk.
I would therefore propose to rephrase your reply to:
"some hap hib and rop noises have a talker". -
GrumpyBastard — 4 years ago(January 28, 2022 10:38 AM)
Music has a LOT of rules, music is mathematical, 12 notes, circle of fifths, that kind of thing. There is a lot of stuff out there that I would call music even though I can't stand it myself but hippety hoppety rappity is not among them, it just NOT music. I would never try to put it in a box, it belongs in the toilet.
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Simpsons reference — 4 years ago(January 25, 2022 05:44 AM)
I just noticed this hippety hoppety rappety part listed under Music. This is WRONG as hap hup rop has got nothing to do with music. hep hap and rup is just talking to a dumb beat, no more no less. Oh, and it kills your braincells (judging by my oberservation of who actually listens to it).
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GrumpyBastard — 4 years ago(January 26, 2022 10:13 AM)
That's a tough one. But to me it means it at least needs to have a melody. And it should be able to make me cry or make me very happy or have some effect on me, give me goosebumps.
Hundreds of years ago we had the absolute masters of music: Bach, Beethoven and Mozart. The big three. They composed songs and wrote melodies that to this day are able to touch people, and they will forever. Normally things get better over time, except for music. After classical music everything dumbed down. Sooooooo sad.
From the beautiful Clarinet Concerto from Mozart which is truly divine we are now in the era (and have been for some time now) where black folk TALK to a DUMB BEAT and whine about their BITCHES and BLING BLING and that they demand REPSECT.
It's clown world. It's thanks to the likes of MTV, they started promoting all that crap.
Music is dead. Unfortunately. -
Rittenhouse The Righteous — 4 years ago(February 01, 2022 11:06 PM)
You only know music when you hear it. A ticking clock is melodic, and can make you feel emotional, under the right conditions.
Unfortunately, hip hop
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music. It's just not very sophisticated. It's low art. I guess we need low art to appreciate high art.
Music is highly subjective. I don't agree with you on the big three. I'm a big JS Bach fan, but I don't like Mozart and Beethoven does little for me, to be honest. I appreciate their talent, it's unquestionable, but I don't enjoy their music. And that's a reflection of my tastes, not their talent.
Have you heard of Einaudi? We're not going backwards. The problem is that as the years go on, the less sophisticated and less intelligent breed the most, and therefore our culture is diluted. It means that the masses want something that matches their less sophisticated, less intelligent tastes. There are still great musicians out there, they just aren't mainstream.
Check my block list because you're probably on it. -
GrumpyBastard — 4 years ago(February 02, 2022 05:06 AM)
A ticking clock is rythmic, not melodic. That's the trouble with all those hippety hoppety rappety dudes, that talking to some primal beat, it's barbaric, it's savage, it appeals only to the lowest life forms.
Have I heard of Einaudi? Aber natuerlich habe ich ein Audi! Ein TT.
Schrodinger's Cat walks into a bar, and doesn't. 