Propaganda!
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irishpisano — 16 years ago(November 30, 2009 08:01 AM)
i was merely wondering if the OP would have the courage and conviction to stand up to a Marine's family and say the same thing
often times ppl like him/her are cowards and hypocrites in real life who would never admit such things face-to-face with those whom he/she is attacking
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IreneAdler1 — 16 years ago(November 18, 2009 11:43 AM)
How exactly is this propaganda? And for what?
I think its a very sad movie that shows that behind all the speaches and numbers we are presented with when watching the news there are always people suffering and there are always lifes lost, mangled and forever changed. Each number and each new assault plan may be another kid from Wyoming, or the kid from your next door neighbor. Or your own.
If you think that a young man loosing his life is propaganda I wonder what your perception of war is. I cannot help but think that most likely this movie will not be shown at the recruiting office. Death is not a good sales argument. -
Bladerunneru0095 — 16 years ago(January 18, 2010 11:56 AM)
So what are you saying? The young men and women that go into the military are morons who don't know they are putting their lives on the line? Are you saying they are dupes that go into it thinking it's gonna be loads of fun and an adventure and they have no idea they may be called to service, in a place where they likely could die? The friends and family I have that joined the military know full well the cost they may pay. None of them want to die, but all are willing to do so for their country. None of them are stupid and foolish enough to think that no one is dying in Iraq and that they also may share that fate. They aren't idiots that were given a good "sales argument" that didn't include "death".
What is it with young people today that they don't know the difference between "loosing" and "losing". If you're going to talk about the death of soldiers, please learn that distinction.
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eyebit — 16 years ago(December 26, 2009 07:37 AM)
I saw this film twicethe first time I missed the beginningso I didn't change channel because I like Kevin as an actor. I felt my thoughts coming up neckwords like propaganda etc. popped up in my headbut then I realized that it is about the homecoming of member of a family, a friend a respected young man before his time as an marine.and if the military beyond politics treat there man like this I well can appreciate this and I am happy to learned this with that movie.
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Fenrir-5 — 16 years ago(November 25, 2009 02:33 AM)
Another person who uses words they don't understand.
Propaganda has a purpose. What do you contend was the purpose for which this film was propagandizing? It was entirely apolitical, and even showed time-relative criticisms of (and continued hawking for) the war. There was no agenda other than honoring a fallen serviceman. If you think that's propaganda, you're just a sad person. -
picknpenLA — 16 years ago(November 29, 2009 12:19 PM)
I'm sure a creep like you prefers something like "In the Valley of Elah", where they took a true story and just simply added a false ending that fit their anti-military, anti-American agenda. THAT is propaganda, you smug douchebag.
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moonecho82 — 16 years ago(December 26, 2009 10:55 PM)
I knew Chance Phelps! And I totally disagree with your statement! It is hardly "propaganda" when they take the story of a young American who might seem ordinary to anyone else and show it to the world so that they might see what being a soldier/Marine is all about! When I heard that they were making a movie about my beloved friend it made me feel honored that I knew him! I bet if someone close to your heart died and they made a movie about them you wouldn't be saying its all for "propaganda"! So quit being a close-minded jerk!!
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tntales — 16 years ago(December 31, 2009 01:24 PM)
It's only propaganda if you believe that letting people see dead soldiers is somehow anti-American. If you're worried that people will see dead soldiers, dead boys and girls, and think that war is bad, then perhaps you should reevaluate your perspective. Saying this is anti-war propaganda is like saying your opinion favors the murdering of young people by other young people.
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husty73 — 12 years ago(November 06, 2013 12:04 PM)
I too know the Phelps family, in fact my father recently married "gretchen's" sister, and both still live in Chance's hometown of Dubois, WY. The entire town has embraced the story of Chance, and felt honored that Mr Bacon portrayed the part of the Col. Chance's picture is added to those who've served overseas on the wall of the local VFW. Dubois takes pride in honoring her own born troops, and has a feeling of honor every time you see Glory flying over a front lawn or near a business. The fact that HBO chose Chance's story to tell is amazing, and having lived among those who knew him as a boy and a man, it gives me goosebumps when I see and hear portrayals of those I know and love. I honor those who serve and those who gave the ultimate sacrifice (this includes the families). I served as well, so this story is of a fallen comrade. Rest easy, Chance. We will never forget! -til they all come home-
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ldddhunter — 16 years ago(January 03, 2010 10:22 AM)
I haven't seen this movie, but the plot sounds a lot like a movie I watched recently "The Messenger (2009)" w/Woody Harrelson & Ben Foster. Only difference is that "Taking Chance" is based on a true story.
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ckward2002 — 16 years ago(January 04, 2010 12:11 PM)
I respectfully disagree. How was this propaganda? It was a very moving film that in no way endorsed the war in Iraq nor sought to use Chance Phelps' death as an anti-war message. I thought it was very well done simply because it could have been used as such and was not.
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norbi_u — 16 years ago(January 09, 2010 05:06 AM)
Am I the only one that somewhat agrees with the OP? All these movies have the same message: "Go to war, fight for your country and if you die, you'll get to be a hero".
There only difference here is that the story's based on a true story. It's still just a big piece of propaganda poo. -
moonecho82 — 16 years ago(January 09, 2010 12:17 PM)
Well personally I think if you can't be supportive of those who fight for this country then you need to go live somewhere else. As I said before this movie was about showing the world what it means to be a soldier. And it definately put things into perspective for a lot of people around the world not just the U.S! And a lot more people have a lot more respect for the men and women who fight and die for the land they love. And as for feeling sorry for Chance's family they were on the set the whole time the movie was in production. They are proud of the movie. And before you go accusing them of using their son for wealth and fame, I will tell you that that definately isn't the case! You people who think think that the men and women who die for this country don't deserve the title of hero need a big dose of reality! Cause if it wasn't for them and those before them , we would practacly be slaves! So show some frickin respect!
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fernandez_1989 — 16 years ago(January 11, 2010 09:57 AM)
This is a very touching movie about sacrifice, honor and gratitude. I will always show respect to the fallen and I will not forget that our freedom is not free.
Greetings from Brazil. We also love our troops just like americans do.