Propaganda!
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eyebit — 16 years ago(December 26, 2009 07:37 AM)
I saw this film twicethe first time I missed the beginningso I didn't change channel because I like Kevin as an actor. I felt my thoughts coming up neckwords like propaganda etc. popped up in my headbut then I realized that it is about the homecoming of member of a family, a friend a respected young man before his time as an marine.and if the military beyond politics treat there man like this I well can appreciate this and I am happy to learned this with that movie.
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Fenrir-5 — 16 years ago(November 25, 2009 02:33 AM)
Another person who uses words they don't understand.
Propaganda has a purpose. What do you contend was the purpose for which this film was propagandizing? It was entirely apolitical, and even showed time-relative criticisms of (and continued hawking for) the war. There was no agenda other than honoring a fallen serviceman. If you think that's propaganda, you're just a sad person. -
picknpenLA — 16 years ago(November 29, 2009 12:19 PM)
I'm sure a creep like you prefers something like "In the Valley of Elah", where they took a true story and just simply added a false ending that fit their anti-military, anti-American agenda. THAT is propaganda, you smug douchebag.
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moonecho82 — 16 years ago(December 26, 2009 10:55 PM)
I knew Chance Phelps! And I totally disagree with your statement! It is hardly "propaganda" when they take the story of a young American who might seem ordinary to anyone else and show it to the world so that they might see what being a soldier/Marine is all about! When I heard that they were making a movie about my beloved friend it made me feel honored that I knew him! I bet if someone close to your heart died and they made a movie about them you wouldn't be saying its all for "propaganda"! So quit being a close-minded jerk!!
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tntales — 16 years ago(December 31, 2009 01:24 PM)
It's only propaganda if you believe that letting people see dead soldiers is somehow anti-American. If you're worried that people will see dead soldiers, dead boys and girls, and think that war is bad, then perhaps you should reevaluate your perspective. Saying this is anti-war propaganda is like saying your opinion favors the murdering of young people by other young people.
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husty73 — 12 years ago(November 06, 2013 12:04 PM)
I too know the Phelps family, in fact my father recently married "gretchen's" sister, and both still live in Chance's hometown of Dubois, WY. The entire town has embraced the story of Chance, and felt honored that Mr Bacon portrayed the part of the Col. Chance's picture is added to those who've served overseas on the wall of the local VFW. Dubois takes pride in honoring her own born troops, and has a feeling of honor every time you see Glory flying over a front lawn or near a business. The fact that HBO chose Chance's story to tell is amazing, and having lived among those who knew him as a boy and a man, it gives me goosebumps when I see and hear portrayals of those I know and love. I honor those who serve and those who gave the ultimate sacrifice (this includes the families). I served as well, so this story is of a fallen comrade. Rest easy, Chance. We will never forget! -til they all come home-
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ldddhunter — 16 years ago(January 03, 2010 10:22 AM)
I haven't seen this movie, but the plot sounds a lot like a movie I watched recently "The Messenger (2009)" w/Woody Harrelson & Ben Foster. Only difference is that "Taking Chance" is based on a true story.
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ckward2002 — 16 years ago(January 04, 2010 12:11 PM)
I respectfully disagree. How was this propaganda? It was a very moving film that in no way endorsed the war in Iraq nor sought to use Chance Phelps' death as an anti-war message. I thought it was very well done simply because it could have been used as such and was not.
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norbi_u — 16 years ago(January 09, 2010 05:06 AM)
Am I the only one that somewhat agrees with the OP? All these movies have the same message: "Go to war, fight for your country and if you die, you'll get to be a hero".
There only difference here is that the story's based on a true story. It's still just a big piece of propaganda poo. -
moonecho82 — 16 years ago(January 09, 2010 12:17 PM)
Well personally I think if you can't be supportive of those who fight for this country then you need to go live somewhere else. As I said before this movie was about showing the world what it means to be a soldier. And it definately put things into perspective for a lot of people around the world not just the U.S! And a lot more people have a lot more respect for the men and women who fight and die for the land they love. And as for feeling sorry for Chance's family they were on the set the whole time the movie was in production. They are proud of the movie. And before you go accusing them of using their son for wealth and fame, I will tell you that that definately isn't the case! You people who think think that the men and women who die for this country don't deserve the title of hero need a big dose of reality! Cause if it wasn't for them and those before them , we would practacly be slaves! So show some frickin respect!
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fernandez_1989 — 16 years ago(January 11, 2010 09:57 AM)
This is a very touching movie about sacrifice, honor and gratitude. I will always show respect to the fallen and I will not forget that our freedom is not free.
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norbi_u — 15 years ago(April 13, 2010 08:29 AM)
I do live somewhere else. And I'm not saying that his parents are using him for wealth and fame. His country is using him to fool people like you into believing that this war is the right thing.
That is pure subconscious propaganda.
I respect the soldiers for what they do, but I hate your government for starting this unnecessary war and keeping it alive for so long. -
redwingjs — 15 years ago(April 14, 2010 08:04 PM)
And just what about this movie tries to fool people into thinking that the current war is the right thing? Please cite specific scenes or lines that promote the war.
I'm not an actor. I just play one on TV.
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jpo58 — 9 years ago(December 03, 2016 07:20 AM)
I know it is close to 7 years after you posted this, but having seen this movie just last night, I cannot understand how anyone can turn this into a "pro-war message". If anything, after seeing the faces of Kevin Bacon's character and Chance's family, it is more of an anti-war message if anything. But it was done with great respect to the people who serve.
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pepeds2002 — 16 years ago(January 17, 2010 06:18 PM)
I agree that this movie has very little interesting content, and feels strongly as propaganda. The only character that is developed at all is Lt.Col. Mike Strobl (but not very deeply either), all the rest of the characters are absolutely uni-dimensional. There are too many narrative deficiencies, and it really never caught my attention.
I understand that for the people that has family involved directly in this war it could have been a very touching subject (by far the demographic group that gives this movie the highest rankings are women older than 45). Nevertheless, by no standards does that make it a good movie.
As respectful as you might feel for the families of the marines killed in action, it's very difficult to ignore the obvious bias on the uni-dimensionality of all characters, and the blatant emotional manipulative intention of the ubiquitous slow-paced soundtrack. -
redwingjs — 16 years ago(January 17, 2010 06:27 PM)
If those people were made up, you'd have a case, but they're not, so you don't.
I'm not an actor. I just play one on TV.
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maritze — 16 years ago(January 20, 2010 07:42 PM)
Redwingjs- Are you kidding? They are portrayed by actors, how are they not 'made up'?
Anyway, I agree with the OP. (Though he might have been a bit more forthcoming with reasons to support his statement.) I also agree that it is truly tragic that a young man lost his life.
I was moved (read: teary eyed) by many scenes in the film, but after watching it I was struck with the strange mindset the film portrayed. It seemed to me that only a nation that has a very large proportion of people with such a deeply ingrained Militaristic attitude as America could produce and admire such a simple and one dimensional film such. Movies like Valley of Elah take a much more confronting and profound statements.
Also, I am deeply puzzled by the idea that it is the noblest thing one can do to die for your country. Especially if your country is far from blameless in the bigger political picture. The fact that this soldier died in a country that viewed him as an invader is not very honorable or noble in my book.