How can an adult look like a child?
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whitespirit26 — 12 years ago(March 30, 2014 08:48 PM)
You're right, why not have kids leave all doors open when they use the bathroom or undress? I suppose all the trash we have about sex now is proof we're just too uptight about nudity.
"There might even be a kind of borderline sexuality in a father and daughter's affections, if so.. get over THAT."
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stabiljka — 11 years ago(May 27, 2014 02:42 PM)
No, he is not freak, he is right. In Scandinavian countries for instance, it's quite common that families bath together. And yet they have much lower rates of child abuse than usa.
Perhaps in Sweden somebody would call you a freak. -
whitespirit26 — 11 years ago(May 27, 2014 05:48 PM)
Are you even paying attention to what I'm replying to? The moron who said there might even be a borderline sexuality between father and daughter and that that's fine; he's a a FREAK. And I've heard things about countries like Sweden and Denmark that push the envelopes of what abuse even means. That is way too liberal for most families period depending on the age groups, and there's no logical correlation between bathing together and there being less pedos; those are smaller countries all the way around.
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emmyleeeeee — 12 years ago(August 09, 2013 01:50 PM)
Lol what? I ran around topless just like my brother until I was 10 and my mom told me it wasn't lady like anymore.
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juliannekalas — 12 years ago(August 09, 2013 02:01 PM)
I KNOW my first thought was SOMEONE was molested as a child! some people have the dirtiest minds, i thought it was a cute story.
Anyway, I have a story to knock yours out the water- my dad had to bathe me when I was 17!!! I broke both my arms in a car accident and couldn't do anything by myself for months. A friend would help me sometimes but i couldn't very well ask her to comeover everynight. (my mother died when i was 12, so that's not an option)
I'm sure someone will suggest that we should have hired a good puritan grandma to help me wash my hair but AMAZINGLY enough, i was more comfortable with my dad, even though he was a male. (like most would be)
So yeah, it was awkward and he averted his eyes and I blushed but we got over it pretty quickly. It was much less awkward then whenever I had to call for him to wipe my butt. -
whitespirit26 — 12 years ago(August 09, 2013 09:40 PM)
"How the hell can a dad bathing his daughter being inappropriate?"
LMAO, I can't believe you just said that. ANY daughter, age regardless? Would you be ok with a dad and his young adult daughter? And being topless at ten has nothing to do with anything; girls like that don't have breasts. There is NOTHING creepy about respecting others' privacy, good Lord.
I never said it was sexual, I said it was inappropriate. And Julianne, 17 is incredibly inappropriate if you didn't have something covering you; you said you both got over it pretty quickly, does that mean he no longer averted his eyes, or no part of you was concealed? How dare you or anyone make light of the idea that I or anyone else might have been molested as a child. This whole idea of things is just..gross to me. -
kmra123 — 12 years ago(September 10, 2013 11:46 AM)
I would say its a cultural thing. Japanese families all bathe together, there is nothing wrong with it. There is only something wrong with it because you are conditioned to think that way. Being naked isn't being sexual.
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kmra123 — 12 years ago(September 11, 2013 09:33 AM)
Your are talking about what society tells you is appropriate, not all Cultures see it the same way. Many are much less uptight about nudity. Modesty is determined by the cultural or religious norms, it is not something a person is born knowing. We are born naked and everything else is taught to us. There are spa's women go to (here in the west) that we spend the day being pampered, facials, etc then finish with a hot tub, usually naked with other women. Changing rooms, same thing. There is nothing wrong with that at all. It's just a human body, just flesh and bone, there is absolutely nothing inappropriate about it.
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whitespirit26 — 12 years ago(September 11, 2013 02:19 PM)
Once again, using a women's locker room as an example of non-modesty is not really a viable example; every country has changing rooms where members of the same sex change. Not comparable at all to being casually undressed around a member of the OPPOSITE sex. We can preach all we want how it's "just a body", but most know it's a lot more than that; it's very important, has very personal parts and most people would not be comfortable just carrying every inch of "flesh and bone" around bare.
"We are born naked and everything else is taught to us"
Not necessarily; most every culture has some rules about nudity and sex, and for obvious reasons people who use the latter loosely are generally seen as dysfunctional beings. Some of the most liberal actresses in this country have never shown their bodies, or all of them, in front of a camera. -
kmra123 — 12 years ago(September 11, 2013 06:01 PM)
Talking about acting in-front of a camera, in-front of a bunch of people who are mixed sexes, not people they generally actually know, is completely irrelevant.
Yes cultures do vary in their perception of nudity and that is not what you are born knowing, it is still taught. Again, Japanese families bathe together, nude, and there is not a thing wrong with it, that is their culture, their normal. You are uncomfortable with it obviously, so don't do it but don't put people down because you don't understand their beliefs. -
whitespirit26 — 12 years ago(September 11, 2013 07:49 PM)
Acting naked in front of a camera is not in the least irrelevant, esp in fact if they don't generally know such people. I don't really care what Japanese families do together, as one, I've heard they don't all do this and have an age limit to bathing with their kids, and two, being even semi-undressed around family is different from considering nudity to be nothing at all. If you really imagine just about every person in the world, if not raised to have modesty, would not naturally start feeling awkward at LEAST aound the ages of puberty, I can't imagine where you come from.
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kmra123 — 12 years ago(September 12, 2013 08:58 AM)
Would you take your children to the museum?
Where I come from I don't teach my children they should be ashamed of themselves, I don't tell them the human body is something shameful an indecent. Where I come from (and the majority of people I know), we are educated enough to understand the human body is a "body" and nothing more. I don't want my children thinking that "Michelangelo's David" is something shameful or should make them feel uncomfortable.
There is a huge difference between naked and sexual, you are absolutely correct there. The intelligent person knows that difference, there-fore is not ashamed of nudity if it is not in a sexual nature. To think people naturally know modesty, is completely ridiculous, this is a learned trait not a born one. We are born with basic instincts none of which is modesty. That is taught and being shamed is also taught.
If acting in front of a camera is not irrelevant, then why is my example of a change room irrelevant according to you?
Japanese was one example there are also many tribes who have been around much longer than any of us, who do not have issues with nudity.