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Why did JJ allow "COVERFIELD" in TITLE as it had NADA to do w/original ?

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    mugojoe — 9 years ago(July 22, 2016 09:22 PM)

    So when I challenge, "can you create a list of themes, characters, or designs that would lead an ordinary viewer to irrefutably make an overwhelming connection between the two films?" your answer is
    "I can't. But here's some well-known documentation showing that the person who's cashing in on a brand name is covering his tracks."
    -MarwoodWalks, age 42
    ?
    Um. Ok.
    As far as the "giant space monsters" go, that hardly connects two films. Are you suggesting that this is related to Independence Day, Alien, and Monsters vs Aliens? How about Star Trek 2009 which had basically the same Cloverfield monster design
    and
    was directed by JJ
    and
    had the letter "e" in the title?
    You sure have a curious grasp on logic.

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      MarwoodWalks — 9 years ago(July 23, 2016 05:44 AM)

      Do you deny the 2 films are linked?
      You sure have a curious grasp on logic.
      The film makers made them with direct links, they wrote the 10 cloverfield lane as a film with direct links to Cloverfield, they talk about the links openly and also about a third film in the series that will probably be made. so my logic that they are linked is pretty sound don't you think?
      If it confuses you that the films didn't have some really dumbass obvious links other than the event of the alien invasion then that's your issue, not the films. The film makers made a film set during the same alien invasion as in the previous film, and tried to make it obvious to morons by putting the word "CLOVERFIELD" in the title. This isn't my opinion, its what the people who made the film say about it.
      Do you want to explain my logic issues now? I am only telling you what the people who made the film are telling usisn't that logical?
      "dont you hear that horrible screaming all around you? That screaming men call silence."

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        mugojoe — 9 years ago(July 23, 2016 06:39 AM)

        As there is not a single piece of evidence sans the title and the dubious statements of the creators that the films are linked then yes, by logic, I have to presume they are NOT linked and that the creators have made an error in judgment (possibly for financial gain).
        Your fallacy is that you presume the premise to be true and can only substantiate it by those who share that opinion. There is no other observable evidence to support the premise.
        It's completely, ridiculously, and hilariously illogical, sweetie.

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          drfunk-18075 — 9 years ago(July 23, 2016 03:28 PM)

          The argument has nothing to do with logic in academic sense. You come off as arrogant and foolish when referencing his/her points.

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            mugojoe — 9 years ago(July 24, 2016 03:49 PM)

            Yawn. Ad hominem. Move along, pumpkin.

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              drfunk-18075 — 9 years ago(July 26, 2016 06:51 AM)

              Glad to see you read "logic for dummies". Seeing as you are clearly a special kind of stupid I will move on.

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                mugojoe — 9 years ago(July 26, 2016 07:30 AM)

                This thread started as "logic for dummies." Don't be surprised that it ends that way as well.
                And I'm not sure anyone will notice if you move on or not. Did you even contribute to the discussion? Who are you?

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                  drfunk-18075 — 9 years ago(July 26, 2016 04:18 PM)

                  You don't even understand logical fallacy yet continue to fail in its application. In case you hadn't noticed this is an open forum. All you have contributed is your lack of understanding of logic in the academic sense.

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                    MarwoodWalks — 9 years ago(July 24, 2016 02:34 PM)

                    Why have you replied again? My last post won the argument numbnutsdidnt you notice?
                    "dont you hear that horrible screaming all around you? That screaming men call silence."

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                      mugojoe — 9 years ago(July 24, 2016 03:48 PM)

                      Backing a fallacy isn't
                      technically
                      a win.
                      But congrats?

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                        MarwoodWalks — 9 years ago(July 25, 2016 06:54 AM)

                        It is when its only you who thinks its a fallacious argument, and in reality, no fallacy is evident.
                        "dont you hear that horrible screaming all around you? That screaming men call silence."

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                          mugojoe — 9 years ago(July 25, 2016 07:15 AM)

                          Begging the question. Appeal to authority. Shall we add proof by assertion and call it a day?
                          All you have to do is point out how the films are related
                          on their own merit as works of art
                          and I'll disappear with a humble apology.
                          Until then, the conversation continues, sweetie.

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                            MarwoodWalks — 9 years ago(July 25, 2016 07:39 AM)

                            Look Kid, I am not just going over old ground to try and prove points already proven to anyone with half a brain. I have already pointed out the links, and the fact that the film makers say they are linked (which is a fact you can't disagree with).
                            Until then, the conversation continues, sweetie.
                            This is not a conversation, when you started throwing insults you ended the conversation. This is the forum equivalent of a much better boxer knocking down a lesser opponent, and yet the opponent wont stay down. Well you keep on replying with nothing, and i will keep on knocking you down.
                            "dont you hear that horrible screaming all around you? That screaming men call silence."

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                              mugojoe — 9 years ago(July 25, 2016 01:29 PM)

                              I'm sad that you've given up. That was way too easy. Hopefully someone will defend your position for you. Do you have an adult or guardian who can help?

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                                MarwoodWalks — 9 years ago(July 25, 2016 01:59 PM)

                                Yet again you reply with no substance. You are out of arguments and haven't successfully refuted a word I have said.
                                Do you have an adult or guardian who can help?
                                LOLthat's pathetic.
                                "dont you hear that horrible screaming all around you? That screaming men call silence."

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                                  mugojoe — 9 years ago(July 25, 2016 02:22 PM)

                                  I'm actually the one asking for substance. My claim is that there is no way to substantiate your argument. You have proven this over and over again through opting out.
                                  If I missed something, I'm sure your ilk can help finish this thought (because you can't):
                                  "Cloverfield and 10 Cloverfield Lane are clearly linked through these observations in both films:
                                  a. ______________
                                  b. ______________
                                  c. ______________"
                                  So run along, poochie. I'm looking for a conversation with an adult now.

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                                    MarwoodWalks — 9 years ago(July 25, 2016 03:56 PM)

                                    See my answer below.
                                    So run along, poochie. I'm looking for a conversation with an adult now.
                                    Yeah you sound so mature.
                                    Another knockdownBOOM!
                                    "dont you hear that horrible screaming all around you? That screaming men call silence."

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                                      mugojoe — 9 years ago(July 25, 2016 04:01 PM)

                                      See my answer below.
                                      The impotent one? Or did you post something useful yet?

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                                        MarwoodWalks — 9 years ago(July 26, 2016 01:54 AM)

                                        The one you had no comeback on, and then got beat down again
                                        "dont you hear that horrible screaming all around you? That screaming men call silence."

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                                          mugojoe — 9 years ago(July 26, 2016 04:36 AM)

                                          I'm not recalling anything by that description. Hm. It must have been featured in both films.

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