NBC executives, not Leno, decide to push back both Conan's and Leno's shows due to low ratings, allowing both to stay. C
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staffan_strand — 16 years ago(January 18, 2010 07:12 PM)
NBC executives, not Leno, decide to push back both Conan's and Leno's shows due to low ratings, allowing both to stay. Conan refuses and quits in a rage, Leno stays. Leno is then offered to fill a vacant spot.
How does this make Leno a bad person? He had no say in NBC moving the shows and it's certainly not his fault Conan decides to leave because of it. The idea that Jay is somehow bullying Conan out of the tonight show just to have it for himself is ludicrous. I feel sorry for Jay being seen as the bad guy when the only ones who deserve to be blamed are NBC execs. -
p3guard — 16 years ago(January 18, 2010 07:35 PM)
I hear you and I agree. That's what has been brought up the most by neutral sources. In NBC's eyes, he's the more valuable of the two, and is being offered to fill a JOB vacancy, getting offered tons of $$$ to do what he loves to do. Who are we to say that he shouldn't accept a job offer?
But good luck trying to get people who are anti-Leno to believe or even acknowledge it. If they don't want to, they'll refuse to believe it. -
candace76 — 16 years ago(January 19, 2010 12:10 AM)
Oh, give me a break, p3guard. You Leno fans are as short-sighted and biased as anyone. I'm sick of you trying to change the minds of the anti-Lenos, as if they had no right to their opinions/perceptions. If you're so sure your Golden Boy has done nothing wrong, why would you even CARE what anyone else thought? And besides that, you Leno fans have won- he is back on The Tonight Show (the only place where he can succeed- and he will be #1 in the ratings again. But you are not satisfied with that- you want EVERYONE to love him.
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megafauna005 — 16 years ago(January 18, 2010 07:43 PM)
Staffan, good points. Leno just gave a GREAT explanation on the Jay Leno Show about 15 minutes ago as to what all happened and he's not a bad guy AT ALL.
It's clear in 2004 he wanted to STAY but NBC forced him out and BOTH Leno and Conan have bad ratings now so NBC just wants to rearrange them.
That's NOT Leno's fault!!! -
sdn_cool — 16 years ago(January 18, 2010 07:59 PM)
Jay Leno mad:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3iXkPje6h8
Scripted, but Jay mad seems funny. -
MrBlondNYC — 16 years ago(January 18, 2010 08:38 PM)
I don't know if I can respect a guy who allows himself to get publicly jerked around like that and act like everything's fine. I would have tons of respect for Jay if he said "Screw you, NBC! Lay in the bed you've made" and went on a competing network. I love Conan and Letterman but if Jay had gone to Fox and destroyed them both that would have been respectable than being loyal to a company that didn't really want him in the first place and then pushed him out after 17 years. Conan is in the same situation. They didn't want him, he gave them 17 years of service and they're pushing him out. But he's doing the respectable thing by walking away. Jay's like a dog that nuzzles his owner who beats him.
George Carlin: It's all bullsh-t and it's bad for ya. -
angelx — 16 years ago(January 18, 2010 08:57 PM)
Exhibit A:
http://blogs.kansascity.com/tvbarn/2010/01/lenovideo.html
Exhibit B:
Jay Leno was actually offered to do cable/daytime/weekend shows first before NBC offered primetime. And he REJECTED them. That's a fact.
I would say the blame is 50/50. I blame NBC execs for trying to greedily hold on to both Conan and Leno instead of just letting one go. I blame Jay Leno for not simply walking away and retiring like WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY PLANNED as per that video I posted above.