NBC executives, not Leno, decide to push back both Conan's and Leno's shows due to low ratings, allowing both to stay. C
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candace76 — 16 years ago(January 19, 2010 12:10 AM)
Oh, give me a break, p3guard. You Leno fans are as short-sighted and biased as anyone. I'm sick of you trying to change the minds of the anti-Lenos, as if they had no right to their opinions/perceptions. If you're so sure your Golden Boy has done nothing wrong, why would you even CARE what anyone else thought? And besides that, you Leno fans have won- he is back on The Tonight Show (the only place where he can succeed- and he will be #1 in the ratings again. But you are not satisfied with that- you want EVERYONE to love him.
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megafauna005 — 16 years ago(January 18, 2010 07:43 PM)
Staffan, good points. Leno just gave a GREAT explanation on the Jay Leno Show about 15 minutes ago as to what all happened and he's not a bad guy AT ALL.
It's clear in 2004 he wanted to STAY but NBC forced him out and BOTH Leno and Conan have bad ratings now so NBC just wants to rearrange them.
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sdn_cool — 16 years ago(January 18, 2010 07:59 PM)
Jay Leno mad:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3iXkPje6h8
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MrBlondNYC — 16 years ago(January 18, 2010 08:38 PM)
I don't know if I can respect a guy who allows himself to get publicly jerked around like that and act like everything's fine. I would have tons of respect for Jay if he said "Screw you, NBC! Lay in the bed you've made" and went on a competing network. I love Conan and Letterman but if Jay had gone to Fox and destroyed them both that would have been respectable than being loyal to a company that didn't really want him in the first place and then pushed him out after 17 years. Conan is in the same situation. They didn't want him, he gave them 17 years of service and they're pushing him out. But he's doing the respectable thing by walking away. Jay's like a dog that nuzzles his owner who beats him.
George Carlin: It's all bullsh-t and it's bad for ya. -
angelx — 16 years ago(January 18, 2010 08:57 PM)
Exhibit A:
http://blogs.kansascity.com/tvbarn/2010/01/lenovideo.html
Exhibit B:
Jay Leno was actually offered to do cable/daytime/weekend shows first before NBC offered primetime. And he REJECTED them. That's a fact.
I would say the blame is 50/50. I blame NBC execs for trying to greedily hold on to both Conan and Leno instead of just letting one go. I blame Jay Leno for not simply walking away and retiring like WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY PLANNED as per that video I posted above. -
flern — 16 years ago(January 25, 2010 10:09 PM)
Leno's lack of talent not only single handedly destroyed the 10 o'clock hour on NBC, but destroyed the ratings for everything that followed his disaster of a show. That's why Leno was sh*tcaned at 10. the local affiliates would not stand for Leno destroying the ratings of their late local news, and then after that disgraceful failure, Leno has the nerve to push out Conan after his P-O-S lead-in helped kill Conan's ratings too. Leno is a desperate despicable loser who doesn't have the class to go away quietly after he failed to perform at 10 o'clock.
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cjoklb — 16 years ago(January 26, 2010 02:22 AM)
Leno is being rewarded for failure and has the audacity to pretend he is getting fired. He tries to act like a victim, yet he somehow always gets everything he wants. He'll throw his own mother under the bus to get what he wants.
The fact that Leno's idiot fans see him as a nice guy really confirms the stereotype that they are a bunch of brain dead middle Americans. -
randy3140 — 16 years ago(January 26, 2010 05:30 AM)
The numbers indicate that Leno's audience followed him to 10 and Conan's audience followed him to 11:30. Nothing really changed except that numbers that worked for Leno at 11:30 proved to be a disaster in prime-time.
Did NBC really think that there was so much pent-up demand for talk shows that the market would support what was essentially a four hour block of talk, from 10 to 2? And that somehow both shows would see increased ratings?
Morons incompetent morons these people are morons ladididdy -
ohsparkly — 16 years ago(January 26, 2010 09:03 AM)
I agree with OP! In my opinion NBC should never have taken The Tonight Show from Jay in the first place.
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Lunchbox-3 — 16 years ago(January 26, 2010 10:58 AM)
Yeah, I'm more of a Conan fan than a Leno fan, but I'm not mad at Leno. He had the #1 show at 11:30 and they fired him. Now they're coming back asking him to fill the role again. If anything I think Jay should tell them to F off or at least use their crappy bargaining position to leverage a much better deal for himself but I doubt he has the spine to do either. But I'm not mad at him, he liked the job and he wants it back. He doesn't owe Conan anything, Conan is the guy who shoved him out of his job in the first place.