Question for the haters
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r-spilsbury — 9 years ago(October 15, 2016 06:12 AM)
I also have given this show a try. I even have watched the original and the reboot is no where close to the original. It does have its moments but not what I was hoping it to be. There have been some shows that are rebooted tv shows that have been good for example dallas and Hawaii five o. But this after watching the first 4 episodes ive interest in it. If you want a good new show to watch I would recommend the leathal weapon tv series.
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Vogonavich — 9 years ago(October 03, 2016 09:21 AM)
I don't hate the show but, for me, it is just too dang flavourless. The gimmicks are stupid (drawing a 2" arc with a car battery?), and the writing makes the ancient "Mod Squad" scripts read like Shakespeare.
I don't mind a show being silly or unrealistic as long as it has something that is fun. Bang bang and vrrroom for half the running time is not enough. The characters need colour; their personalities should be unique. These guys are like vanilla ice cream except someone forgot to add the vanilla.
Final criticism: the outdoor scenes never come close to giving an illusion of being in foreign territory. Definitely needs a production value upgrade.
I would like this show to succeed. I like the actors but they are not being given anything to do. If ep 3 is a clone of ep 2 then I am giving up on it. -
blackflag01609 — 9 years ago(October 03, 2016 09:59 AM)
The gimmicks are stupid (drawing a 2" arc with a car battery?)
In the original they did it with a generator and 2 half dollars (thought it was quarters myself). In the original they used to "remove" one key ingredient from each "MacGyverism" because they were afraid of the audience hurting themselves trying it. It wouldn't surprise me to find out that they are in some way "dumbing down" the "MacGyversims" in this version to keep viewers from trying them. The last thing CBS wants is sued and you can't say nobody will ever try them. But it's going to take more than 2, 3, 4, episodes before stories with information like that will start to be told.
the outdoor scenes never come close to giving an illusion of being in foreign territory. Definitely needs a production value upgrade.
It would be nice to have more money but this is network television and there in is the reason why cable television wins all the awards these days. They have to make due with where they film, Atlanta and it's surrounding area because the network television budget is always going to be smaller.
I like the actors but they are not being given anything to do. If ep 3 is a clone of ep 2 then I am giving up on it.
I like the pilot for the hastily written and filmed pilot it was. I liked episode 2 better. As a George Eads fan I feel that episode 2 gave him the chance to do what he does best - emotions - it reminded me of what I fell in love with about his character of Nick Stokes in "CSI". -
Vogonavich — 9 years ago(October 03, 2016 11:38 AM)
Doesn't cost anything to insert imagination and character. Low budget is not an excuse for crappy location design.
"Supernatural" comes to mind: very low budget but excellent writing and superb use of available locale.
These folk need quirks and character flaws to offset their superior talents. Complex back stories cost nothing. The writers do not have to work hard since plenty of political material exists on both the domestic and world stages. The NKorea and Venezuela set ups were simply stupid. They need to either get serious and take a few chances or really go over the top a la "Chuck".
I don't want a copy of the original but I do want something that either adds to the myth or creates a worthy new myth.
Anywho, the question was asked about "haters" and criticism. My answer is: I am curious, this is just my opinion, and I am moving on.
Please, happily enjoy the show if it paddles your boat and nevermind those who don't appreciate it.
My disappointment (emphasis on MY) is that this is a cheese puff without the cheese.
but I do not hate it. I just wish that it was not so bland. -
jptvgta — 9 years ago(October 09, 2016 09:31 PM)
Didn't you ever see the original? They were filming in one of two locations during it's run, Southern California, and Vancouver. Guess which two types of scenery you ever saw most of the time on that show?
Southern California and Vancouver.
I know this, because I watched it, all episodes, within the last year, in addition to growing up with it. And in my opinion, not much has changed for this show. Some alterations to the characters to fit in modern times, filming style is different as well, but for the most part, the spirit is there, including lying about some of the things Mac does like mixing chemicals so people won't get hurt trying it in real life.
Only complaint I have is the cgi. OG Mac had more real effects. Of course they also had a bunch of surplus Jeeps they could blow up too, but oh well. Hopefully they'll change their effects down the road, maybe get a budget boost to at least make them more realistic. -
tomk1of1 — 9 years ago(October 08, 2016 02:34 PM)
I think people get excited for a come back of a series they loved and are disappointed. I'm always sceptical. And I'm irritated with so many redoesSome like to ragsome are truly in disbelief,(not regarding this one exactly) in general. I just posted what is at now 5 Pages I think about how terrible a new si fi series is.."Aftermath". I was in disbelief it made to to tv I wasn't alone,,lol
I liked the original so I wanted to see how this one was. I haven't seen it yet,it is in the DVR,,but people ar not saying nice things,,,so many things to watch,you have to be picky. But I don't want to miss something good.
I liked "Burn Notice" because it had the narrating style this does. Explaining how things are done..etc cabl, esp has so many good series,sophisticated ones,with good stories that fluff style prodeedursls seem silly to some. but they serve a purpose as the NCIS franchise proves. People like simple entertainment at nite after a busy day. But is has to be good and you have to lie the characters. -
danielgalun — 9 years ago(October 09, 2016 06:45 PM)
And if someone gets murdered in the street, why waste your time, why not just not watch it and pretend it didn't happen? Are you a retard? That's the dumbest logic I've ever heard. If something sucks you need to complain as loudly as you can so that crap will end, if people didn't there would be no laws, no society, no anything. And no, it does not matter that a few people enjoy it, a few people enjoy rape to, doesn't mean we should let those people enjoy it. Sure, I'm being a bit dramatic to make the point, but the fact that this show exists hurts me and makes me think that if I have kids I won't let them anywhere near a TV. When not even MacGyver is safe, nothing is, so this needs to be hated and destroyed
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Evariste-Galois — 9 years ago(October 09, 2016 08:35 PM)
I'm not complaining for the sake of venting my spleen. I"m complaining because the formula for this show is like slow-pitch softball: you're an idiot if you strike out! (especially if you look at the third strike!!)
Go look at my "Quincy" thread and tell me (in all honesty) this should have gone forward. The warning signs were there.
The problem with Mac '16 is it attaches stink to the franchise and it's going to be some time before it's attempted again.
If they wanted to make it an ensemble, I think it's possible - for a younger Mac. And at the end of the series: boom big explosionmaybe it's Mac's mistake or maybe Murdoc gets one up on Mac and the team is gone - and he basically sees it to be a case of he can't work with a group again. Either way, it creates a segue to Macyver '85, completing the prequel.
They've had 53 weeks since it was announced and this is the best they can do? -
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Sam-953-169285 — 9 years ago(October 10, 2016 09:46 PM)
You know very well people will be like that. So why are you complaining about people complaining? You keep saying the same thing and getting nowhere. Unless you are a writer or other staff in a position to improve the show, we are not trying to change you yet you are trying to change us.
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Evariste-Galois — 9 years ago(October 12, 2016 12:26 AM)
Unless you are a writer or other staff in a position to improve the show
Unless things have changed [dramatically], those who have direct influence over the show, content/script, etc. can't go out & read/post things such as boards, newsgroups, etc. Not just because they don't have time, but there's too great of a chance something someone says might work its way into a scriptthat's grounds for a copyright violation suit. While there are some who say, "any publicity is good publicity", usually descendents of Phineas Taylor Barnum, it's not the type of cheque some responsible party wants to endorse & send.
Are you familiar with the Chiffons ("He's so fine") vs. George Harrison ("My Sweet Lord")?
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mttyflynn — 9 years ago(October 15, 2016 11:08 AM)
The new McGuyver fails to capture the imagination, it reminds me of Burn Notice. Which l enjoyed for most of it run,
I am not so enamouered with McGuyver and find the black guy insulting, I thought the
silly black characters ended with Chris Tucker..the prodcers of Mcguyver should watch Luke Cage to see how black men really areMEN. -
terylene — 9 years ago(October 29, 2016 10:34 PM)
I can't see how in any stretch of the imagination you can compare the crappiness that is the new MacGyver with the brilliance and fun that made Burn Notice a success. The only way MacGyver reminds me of Burn Notice is that both are on television, are script based and feature actors. That's about where the comparisons end.