the baby on the beach…….really disturbing.
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robhiphop — 10 years ago(April 14, 2015 07:39 PM)
Name me one mainstream, commercial film, like this one, which violates this rule of sympathy for the character(s). Without a sympathetic connection between the audience and the character(s) there is no commercial film.
Why is it important that the example must be from a "mainstream, commercial" film, as you put it?
I doubt very much you're familiar with the films of Bresson, Parajzhanov, Pasolini, or Bruno Dumont, i.e., abstract, noncommercial art films, which sometimes violate or ignore this rule on purpose. This is NOT one of those films. It is clearly intended for mainstream, commercial distribution.
What is it about
Under the Skin
that leads you to believe it's intended to be viewed as a "mainstream, commercial" film?
On the contrary, I would say that the makers of
Under the Skin
were all too aware that it was likely to be a polarising movie that would not necessarily achieve broader mainstream acceptance. If the aim was to achieve as much mainstream acceptance as possible, then almost certainly, the approach to the movie would've been very different than it was.
Naturally, the movie was still "commercially distributed". Without commercial distribution, film making would effectively cease to exist in any meaningful form. There would only be zero-budget fan enthusiast movies and shorts. Even directors working strictly in the field of so-called "arthouse" fare still seek commercial distribution for their movies, as this is the only way for them to sustain a career and continue to make movies. -
StaunchWoman — 10 years ago(February 11, 2016 06:47 AM)
Tormenting or killing off a baby is a no-no, even off screen.
Says you. This is a work of FICTION and to try and control what an artistic medium can and cannot contain is RIDICULOUS!
If you're so sensitive, that a scene in a film can have this effect on you, while knowing for a FACT it's a film You have to take it upon yourself to better control what it is you see. Look deeper into what it is you might watch, just in case.
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mimosveta — 11 years ago(July 19, 2014 08:02 AM)
not really. It isn't a requirement that the main character be good, they just have to be interesting.
This. People need to stop thinking that overreacting to any scene in fiction, makes them a good person in real life.
Anyone who has ever read any spoilers,
knows that
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archento — 11 years ago(July 19, 2014 03:58 PM)
This movie is not at all about rooting for the lead character. The lead character is fascinating precisely because we're not rooting, we're waiting to see what she does next. In a way, she is studying humanity, and in turn we are simply studying her. It's not as simple as caring or not caring about the protagonist in this film.
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groovymike_16 — 11 years ago(July 20, 2014 02:50 AM)
I know I was. I was fascinated. Wondering what she would do next.
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Onholyservicebound — 11 years ago(July 22, 2014 01:54 PM)
The critic reviews are higher, not that critics are law, but their opinions come from a better understanding, and generally less emotional and unreliable.
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Onholyservicebound — 11 years ago(July 23, 2014 10:46 AM)
Well, we'll all pick and choose which reviews suit us best I suppose. Rotten tomatoes and IMDB are probably the most mainstream, I think Rotten Tomatoes is a little more reliable out of the two, but that's because users tend to rate movies low for ridiculous reasons. I guarantee just by reading threads here that a lot of people rated the movie low because of disturbing beep like that baby on the beach, or the dark ending, or simply because they didn't understand it.(Not beep on them btw, it has a lot of open ended scenes.)
Point is the reviews are generally positive, with mixed being the lowest, not really a good reference for the quality of the film, it can go either way depending on the person at that point. -
groovymike_16 — 11 years ago(July 25, 2014 01:09 PM)
Honestly, a 6.6 on IMDB for a film as divisive as this is pretty good on IMDB. Obviously mainstream viewers will despise this film. Those more open-minded with a better appreciation for film are the ones who will love this. It's only made for a small group of moviegoers, IMO. Most won't get it. Regardless it will be talked about and debated for years to come. I'm sure it will be shown in film classes too.
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jjett123 — 11 years ago(July 27, 2014 11:59 PM)
i freely admit that i didn't get everything in this movie but (oddly enough) i still ended up loving it. i agree 100% numerous times it just seems aimless (sort of) and meandering but the movie haunted me for about 2 weeks after i had seen it. it takes a LOT for me to be moved/shaken by a film. i think the last movie to do that (in a good way! LOL) was maybe MARTYRS? the last movie to movie me in an unfavorable way was A SERBIAN FILM (even though i think it's a well made film and i freaking LOVED the devastating ending).
but yeah, no big deal. we all like different things. bluesdoctor, 4 of my friends (all come from different walks of life, different ages, jobs, nationality etc) either didn't like the movie or found it so (these are not my wordsi'm quoting them. lol) "mind-numbingly boring" that they turned it off.
different strokes.