A really stupid pro gun argument…
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Deluded Juice — 4 years ago(June 11, 2021 10:31 AM)
"You have a really superficial understanding of… well, everything, it looks like. "
Of course you would say that because we are not on the same side of this issue.
So I will take that with a grain of salt.
The ones who don't understand are you pro gun chickenshit cowards who somehow are fooling yourselves into thinking that if those dictators took control when they took away the guns over there, it WILL happen here!
Which it won't because of the system we have in place.
Turd Lump is pro gun, he has said that, and he has a record of maybe making a couple of background checks stronger while at the same time making gun laws weaker or not doing anything about it as promised.
I would say that he never did enough for gun control, didn't care at all about mass shootings and the pro gun wanna be dicktator encouraged his pro gun crowd to take over the Capitol where he reduced the police presence and refused to call in the Natl' Guard despite pleas from Pence to do so.
Feb. 28, 2017: Trump signed a bill into law rolling back an Obama-era regulation that made it harder for people with mental illness to purchase guns. That Obama-era measure had included people receiving Social Security checks for mental illnesses and people deemed unfit to handle their own financial affairs to the national background check database.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/timeline-trumps-record-gun-control-reform/story?id=64783662 -
insurgent — 4 years ago(June 11, 2021 10:40 AM)
Frankly, that article shows he was not pro-gun. Red flag laws and banning bump stocks are gun control actions. Just because he SAID he was pro-gun and his mindless followers are pro-gun doesn't mean he was.
See above how ours is different with voting.
This is ignorance. Examples of democracies that have been taken over by dictators: Venezuela, Nicaragua, Egypt, Nazi Germany.
Plus you cannot apply what happens in the past and in a different country as if that is going to happen to ours.
Clearly you see no value in learning history, but that's literally the point of it.
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Professor FFS — 4 years ago(June 11, 2021 11:32 AM)
Warren is probably a Bentley sock. He shares many of the same irrational viewpoints as our beloved professor.
There's one very simple way to counter their lame counter argument, and that's to point to the success of many belligerents who've employed guerrilla tactics using small arms and improvized explosives. The Russian partizans, in WWII, made progress difficult and costly for the Germans. There was Vietnam in the sixties, which was so costly for America we had to withdraw. Then Afghanistan for Russia, and then the West, followed by Iraq. Then look at Syria today.
Idiots who think nuclear weapons and heavy ordnance win warns are, well, idiots. That kind of technology wins battles, perhaps, but it sends the enemy underground. Ultimately, it makes them impossible to defeat, with every attempt to do so simply increasing their sense of righteousness, thus swelling their ranks.
There's real danger around the corner, though. If we don't put the right controls in place soon (tighten up the voting system, win the argument on free speech and liberty), we're all ****ed when the next generation of AI and robotics arrive. No matter how well armed or determined we are, we'll have no chance against a more intelligent, non-human adversary.
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Deluded Juice — 4 years ago(June 11, 2021 11:59 AM)
I am not a sock of anyone and I don't know or remember Bentley and his posting style.
It is not the first time and place I have been accused of a sock account.
Sometimes two posters just share in the same values and expressions which are similar.
OK so you are FFS!
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Phaenon — 4 years ago(June 11, 2021 10:22 AM)
And that pro gun president encouraged his pro gun crowd to storm the Capitol in a coup attempt which thankfully failed.
I know this is just simply trolling by you but can't you see the metaphysical aspect to a troll proper?
It's a real shame, an understandable one though, that someone died as January 6th would have been the height of trolling for all of humanity
But now it's calling it a coup that is the trolling, a real cheap shot against a well polished shield of diamond.
Ding Dong
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Deluded Juice — 4 years ago(June 11, 2021 10:34 AM)
It was all sorts of things.
Coup attempt.
Insurrection.
Riot.
A take over of the electoral process.
Storming the Capitol.
Take your pick.
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Deluded Juice — 4 years ago(June 11, 2021 10:48 AM)
I say tomato, you say tomahto…
Well, this guy thinks of it as a self coup.
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2021/01/11/capitol-riot-self-coup-trump-fiona-hill-457549
We are splitting hairs here and I wanna get back on topic of gun control and how wrong the gun nuts are with at least one of their arguments. -
Corwin — 4 years ago(June 11, 2021 10:51 AM)
I have retired from gun control arguments here, because I find them pointless, both sides are too baked in and there's too much bs floating around on the internet that even semi-literate retards like Soul Venom can latch onto, but your argument would be stronger if you advocated for stricter control and not banning all or most guns. You are playing into their hands with that argument.
Many industrialized countries haven't banned most firearms they just make it take longer and more onerous to get one, which has a remarkable and surprising impact on many violent people, who often clearly have little impulse control in the first place, and/or a history of violence,which prevents them from easily obtaining firearms if you make a clean record a requirement.
The libertarians here still don't like that argument; fair enough.
Anyway, I am leaving it there.
Schrodinger's Cat walks into a bar, and doesn't. 