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dbentley666 β 5 years ago(November 29, 2020 08:10 PM)
So your argument amounts to: Men rule the world because they are physically dominant?
But surely the interesting question is: why is a species that prides itself on its rational abilities so hung up on physical power? Women are far superior in a range of ways. We should hand over a lot of power to them, if we are truly rational.
Western civilization is one of the most destructive and stupid civilizations we have had the misfortune to endure. We are racing towards environmental destruction, which most other civilizations have managed to avoid. So probably the worst. -
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β 5 years ago(November 29, 2020 08:39 PM)Well youβre only partially right. Menstruation isnβt particularly debilitating for every woman because the pain levels of symptoms like cramps vary from woman to woman. Other medical problems that come along with being woman like PCOS are even worse. Not every woman has kids or gets pregnant, so that point doesnβt hold.
Where youβre correct is the physical advantages men have conferred to them by testosterone. It allowed you throughout history to subjugate and control women by force. A drastically transformed political society has made these physical differences irrelevant in the grand scheme. Women are now in positions of power and can command stronger men (police and armies)
to enforce laws they write and enact. Patriarchy isnβt enforced purely by biological differences anymore.
Sexism exists but is greatly mitigated from where it was.
Your position would be more relevant 70 years ago.
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β 5 years ago(November 29, 2020 09:51 PM)Heβs nutty but his erratic politics have endeared a lot of people to him. Heβll say something insightful one day then something completely idiotic the next.
Now I have to go Bentley. My husband demands a ham sandwich or heβll beat me over the head with a blunt object made from frozen testosterone .
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Platonic_Caveman β 5 years ago(November 30, 2020 03:11 AM)
Bentley, I must call you out on the latent homophobia. Are you implying gay men have less testosterone than straight men? We tend to be oversexed and promiscuous, so I'd say we probably have an excess of testosterone. Just sayin'.
I'm not supporting patriarchy either.
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Platonic_Caveman β 5 years ago(November 30, 2020 04:07 AM)
Your position would be more relevant 70 years ago.
But I was addressing the historical reasons for the power imbalance based on gender. I said that technology and birth control have changed the dynamic.
Regardless, both you and I know that patriarchy still rules the world. It may take centuries to completely level the playing field.
And then again, if there's an apocalypse and we lose everything, we all go back to square one and biology will dictate that men rule.
This is my underlying point. Class conflict and race conflict are based on social constructs. Gender conflict is rooted in biology.
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β 5 years ago(November 30, 2020 06:10 AM)Arguments in what ifβs and doomsday scenarios donβt really hold weight now do they? Obviously if a zombie apocalypse happens and men and women have to fight over scraps for food the smart money is on the men to win. This isnβt an insightful take.
Now letβs talk reality. Society is getting progressively less patriarchal in Western society. Thereβs a sexual revolution among women, burgeoning elements of feminism expedited by social media, normalization of women in positions of power etc. Your argument is completely and arbitrarily dependent on which part of the world youβre focused on and the political climate therein. It isnβt black and white.
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Platonic_Caveman β 5 years ago(November 30, 2020 07:51 AM)
No, my argument doesn't change in 100 years or a thousand years because biology is a constant. We aren't going to physically evolve enough in a thousand years or ten thousand years to make a difference.
Women can only maintain physical parity to men if technology and birth control allows it. Take away technology and birth control and we're back to square one, men are the warriors, women keep the fire burning at the hearth and tend the children.
My argument is dependent on biology and that isn't gonna change. And I'm not extolling patriarchy. I'm just saying it's a fact and it isn't going anywhere any time soon.
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Bee β 5 years ago(November 28, 2020 09:31 PM)
Exactly! All the righties that post here are from GoT.
Twd did have a few back in the day. Yermom, ribbit, cornellβ¦i think. I never really paid attention to political arguments though. There weren't that many -
Platonic_Caveman β 5 years ago(November 28, 2020 09:37 PM)
I know Yermom. I know your mom. Lol. Not really, sorry.
Ribbit? That's not YouMightBeRabbit or some such name from IMDb is it?
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Bee β 5 years ago(November 28, 2020 09:46 PM)
Lol leave my momma alone!
I think it was just ribbit. She is actually yermom's little sister. She rarely talked politics but she was right wing.
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Platonic_Caveman β 5 years ago(November 28, 2020 09:50 PM)
Okay, the Rabbit guy was male.
What about Bongo? I only saw him post a little. But he seemed like an intelligent guy and he could obliterate anyone who argued with him. I think that's why Boreson compares posters like me and Chickaboom to him.
But then I heard Bongo was a right winger. Did everybody hate him or am I only hearing the angry complaints of his victims?
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dbentley666 β 5 years ago(November 28, 2020 10:03 PM)
Bongo was moderately right-wing, but not nasty about it. He was essentially a decent guy, but he couldn't bear being teased. I am one of the few people who defeated him, on his own terms. Many others defeated him, but he would sooner die than admit it.
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Bee β 5 years ago(November 28, 2020 10:03 PM)
I loved bongo! So did twizz and ribbit. I think all the females liked bongo and some played 'words with friends' with him lol. He was polite and respectful, as far as i know.
He had a little social awkwardness that people might not have liked, like he would randomly post someone's picture but it wasn't doxxing because they had shared it at some point before. I thought he could be a little weird but harmless and generally nice
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Platonic_Caveman β 5 years ago(November 29, 2020 06:06 PM)
Okay, thanks Bee. So he wasn't the horrible ogre painted by the GoT trolls. If the women liked him he had a soul.
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