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        fillshertease — 10 years ago(January 06, 2016 04:11 AM)

        After the quote you have provided, he then went on to say some other things, including:
        Fuel costs jumped through the atmosphere, more than doubling. Then people waited in gas lines as well as unemployment lines. Facts are stupid things.
        So nice try, but Ronald Regan most certainly DID say "Facts are stupid things"
        We're from the planet Duplon. We are here to destroy you.

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            Gerdevil — 10 years ago(August 03, 2015 08:23 PM)

            "Liberal" means welfare today. To get welfare, a government must steal from some people and give to others. Theft is anti-liberty. Liberal used to mean liberty, but was co-opted to mean Democrat. Now you have to specify "classical liberal" to indicate traditional liberal or liberty.
            I think you should broaden your horizons a bit, go to Scandinavia or Germany and then come back and tell me that a social democracy doesn't work.

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              steven_c64 — 10 years ago(February 29, 2016 05:20 AM)

              If liberal means welfare, than 'right' means healthcare for rich and light-skinned only. Just like like Jesus wanted it.

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                nammage — 9 years ago(April 07, 2016 01:17 PM)

                I am a Democrat and far left liberal. I have never taken money from the gov't, and I have been homeless twice. And, I hate to break it to you but statistically speaking: Conservatives and Republicans take as much from the gov't as anyone else. And the biggest Social program that the United States has, Conservatives and Republicans are in favor of. It's called the US Military.
                Oh, and just as an aside: taxes have been lowered more under Democratic liberal control than under Conservative Republican control. Another aside: Conservative Republicans do want gov't in their business as long as it's the "business" in which they favor.
                The Republican brand died a long time ago.
                -Nam
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                  Royalcourtier — 11 years ago(November 23, 2014 08:33 PM)

                  Liberal has nothing to do with liberty. The words are similar, but the meanings different. Actually this film has more to do with socialism - rob from the rich to give to the poor (who will then destroy the looted property)

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                    malcolmfellstoney — 10 years ago(July 12, 2015 12:19 PM)

                    Yes it does, Liberalism, is a political philosophy or worldview founded on the ideas of liberty and equality.

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                        Royalcourtier — 10 years ago(June 09, 2015 06:08 PM)

                        Liberal does not mean having "an affinity for liberty". Apart from the bad English (I suggest that you find a dictionary, and look up affinity), the film is not about liberty. It is about class warfare. It promotes the idea that the rich are evil and selfish, and that the rest of us are downtrodden and persecuted.
                        This films socialist rather than liberal ideas are so dominant, and so transparent, that the plot suffers appallingly.
                        The idea that the rich would seek refuge in space is absurd. The absence of medical equipment on earth, and the miracle machines found in every house on Elysium, is ridiculous. The film suggests that a mob of ruthless refugees raiding Elysium is somehow a good thing. The destruction of that fragile habitat is more likely, and how can that be good for anyone?
                        If Elysium was so concerned with security, why does it have no defences? A shoulder fired missile might down a aircraft within a few miles. The idea that it could down a craft in high earth orbit is insane.
                        And how could a junk-yard crew build and operate a spacecraft capable of reaching orbit?
                        The logical inadequacies in this film are breath-taking.

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                          xfiler100 — 11 years ago(October 12, 2014 12:51 AM)

                          Left-wing or Progressive. Liberal is too kind a word for these Commies. Classic Liberals were basically what the Conservatives are today: tolerant, patient, inclusive.

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                            nammage — 9 years ago(April 07, 2016 01:23 PM)

                            Conservatives are what? I mean, if you're talking about outside the US, maybe, but inside the US? They are none of those things except to their own kind.
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                              gtbarker — 10 years ago(September 25, 2015 09:14 AM)

                              Shush.. Adults speaking
                              'Well I've got two words for you - STFU'

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                                DoctorFell — 11 years ago(August 10, 2014 12:14 PM)

                                speaking as a conservative, i found it was the complete opposite, people are jealous of the rich & want what the rich have paid for, but without paying for it themselves.
                                trashing books is like the Special Olympics even if you burn them all you are still a retard.

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                                  nammage — 9 years ago(April 07, 2016 01:25 PM)

                                  What the rich pay for on the backs of the poor.
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                                    tody711 — 11 years ago(August 10, 2014 03:09 PM)

                                    And the white people die so the hoards of unwashed and uneducated and ill can have freebies.

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                                      DaveDude12 — 11 years ago(August 12, 2014 09:49 AM)

                                      Nice , are you a proud racist ?

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                                        distant153 — 11 years ago(September 12, 2014 02:01 AM)

                                        They're not exactly educated and healthy, are they?
                                        I'm pretty sure OP didn't mean to imply it's their own fault.

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                                          michaelexarkun — 11 years ago(August 20, 2014 11:00 AM)

                                          Well, while I don't care for the "left-wing vs. right-wing" polemical type of discussions, I will say the message(s) in this film where rather heavy-handed.

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