Remove the 2-on-1 fight, and there's absolutely nothing in this movie. No acting, no real plot, no memorable character
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zozogogo — 11 years ago(April 11, 2014 11:16 AM)
Amusingly, I thought the final 2v1 fight was the worst part of the movie. Rama's
brother was already stabbed through the hand
and being worked over before the fight begins, yet he is able to keep up and fight basically on par with Rama. Plus these guys are landing disgustingly hard blows on each other and shrugging them off until the time limit runs out and suddenly the fights over. It ends up feeling like "a bunch of stuff" despite their impressive display of skills.
The prior fights in the movie weren't like that and felt like each blow landed actually mattered. That's why I enjoyed those so much more. Still a solid action movie though. -
everlone_2000 — 11 years ago(December 15, 2014 01:06 AM)
Amusingly, I thought the final 2v1 fight was the worst part of the movie. Rama's and being worked over before the fight begins, yet he is able to keep up and fight basically on par with Rama. Plus these guys are landing disgustingly hard blows on each other and shrugging them off until the time limit runs out and suddenly the fights over. It ends up feeling like "a bunch of stuff" despite their impressive display of skills.
Yeah, I agree. That 2-on-1 fight was numbing and ludicrous. The movie was terrific up until that point - striking a great balance of exciting and fun, and tense, but that final fight took it into the realms of genre cliche, IMO. You went from great stuff like Rama being so shaken as to barely be able to walk after his 20ft dive out the window - which felt visceral and plausible - to these guys just doling out and absorbing a comical level of damage.
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Straight_Pride — 11 years ago(April 13, 2014 12:08 PM)
But it DOES have the final fight, so your point is irrelevant
"Transformers wouldn't have made so much money without the CGI robots!"
What's your point man? we came for some fighting action and we got it -
indiratiarani — 11 years ago(April 19, 2014 04:10 AM)
Since you're not Indonesian, you can't judge their acting level. So your opinion on their acting is irrelevant. No memorable character you said ? I am pretty sure everyone who watch this movie will never forget Mad Dog.
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perniciouspen@hotmail.com — 11 years ago(May 08, 2014 07:46 AM)
Don't go looking for 'character development' or indeed, quality acting. This film, like Ong Bak, is simply a show piece to show off the amazing fighting skills of the central character, Iko Uwais. Director Gareth Evans 'discovered' Uwais in Indonesia and asked if he had ever done any acting. He hadn't. The whole 'plot' of the film (such as it is)was simply done as a means to let Uwais do what he does best. I should think that most of the cast are, at best, stunt men for the Indonesian film industry and don't have much in the way of acting skills anyway. They are martial artistsnot thespians. It's like one of those musical stage shows that feature the songs of a particular artist (Queen, Spice girls, Frankie Valli etc)..the 'story' is just an excuse to squeeze in as many songs as possible. This is no different. The 'plot' is merely a frame onto which all the fight scenes can be hung.
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narcan — 11 years ago(June 21, 2014 12:52 PM)
A real indonesian (or any) swat team would not be this poorly equipped and be trained not to stand in the line of fire in a windowed room. They have militairy grade (armored) personel transport vehicles and weapons + tactictal body armor and nightvision equipment (specialy in buildings, where it is the swat who cuts the power). They would come in from above and below after the surrounding area has been swepped clean. Indonesian swat also wears facemasks, need I go on This already annoys me after 10 minutes of watching this.
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cousbrojs — 11 years ago(July 05, 2014 07:43 AM)
This movie was made to conjure up money to make The Raid 2. And, The Raid is badass! Sometimes straight up action movies are great to watch. It's also better than some of the stale action movies Hollywood have been pumping out.
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r-sab-08 — 11 years ago(July 15, 2014 12:18 AM)
"There was a time for these kinds of movies 20 years ago"
I'm glad you said that because this film gave me that nostalgic feeling. You didn't like the movie, that's fine. This was mainly a martial arts movie, if you were looking for some epic story telling with dudes in uniform just re-play one of the CoD games. Any of them, seeing as there all the same. I'm sure that's what your looking for.
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Doomblade — 11 years ago(August 03, 2014 01:20 AM)
Rubbish. What about the shoot-out that ends with the refrigerator exploding and Bowo injured? What about the really tense scene where Rama and Bowo hide behind a wall and are almost killed by the machete gang leader? What about the fight with the machete gang? What about the fight between Jaka and Mad Dog? Those are all great scenes. If you went in expecting an intricate storyline and complex plot, it's your own mistake, so don't blame the movie for your own shortcomings. If you want an action movie with a plot I don't know, watch The Raid 2.
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puschit-1 — 11 years ago(August 05, 2014 08:42 AM)
Please elaborate what was different 20 years ago so that these kind of movies were okay.
I'd rather have an action movie with well executed martial scenes one after another than an action movie with 30 minutes of fights and 60 minutes of generic filler scenes that will skip anyway (if not upon first viewing, then on subsequent ones) -
syzygy_3_0 — 11 years ago(August 17, 2014 03:28 AM)
This was just an ok movie 6/10
No real plot, and the action was a bit unrealistic at times. If you are going to make a movie that relies almost 100% on action and not much else, the action scenes better be really spectacular.