regarding the idiots who risk losing their wives, husbands, girlfriends, boyfriends, etc. due to an animal - particularl
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LilyViolet — 11 years ago(May 05, 2014 10:18 AM)
no body says you have to value one more than other. but dont treat it like it is trash/object.
if you only get pets for when it is convenient for you. DONT GET A PET.
just leave animals alone. and just stick with treating people like trash. at least with people they have the will power to avoid you -
SapphEyeR — 11 years ago(May 08, 2014 07:51 PM)
no body says you have to value one more than other. but dont treat it like it is trash/object.
Are you addressing me? I'm saying you do have to value one more than the other. Guess which one.
If the cat is terrorizing your kid, and you can't keep the cat out of the kid's room, then you need to get rid of the cat.
just stick with treating people like trash. at least with people they have the will power to avoid you
But I don't treat people like trash, not even trashy people.
You don't have the willpower to avoid me. I predict you'll mouth off at me again. -
SkeksisGirl — 11 years ago(May 09, 2014 03:50 PM)
I'm saying you do have to value one more than the other. Guess which one.
And this is where people have a problem with you. Valuing one being above another is BS and shows a complete lack of compassion towards other living things.
And you DO treat people like trash. Don't deny it, a lot of us have seen you do it on this board.
You should NEVER have kids or animals because you obviously can't get beyond your selfish better than everything attitude.
"Slice, Pull, Staple, its a boy!" - Maul57
I can handle the whatever! -
SapphEyeR — 11 years ago(May 10, 2014 03:28 PM)
To repeat for the slow ones:
It. Doesn't. Matter. What. The. Kid. Did.
The kid is being attacked by the cat. He is being scratched. He is frightened. If a person attacked your kid, you'd stop him any way you could. You should be stopping the cat from doing it any way you can.
If you don't, if you allow it, that's child abuse.
If you need to punish your kid, do it some other way. -
SapphEyeR — 11 years ago(May 11, 2014 05:38 PM)
If the Cat is freaking out because the kid half-blinded him? Hell you correct the kid. If the Cat is freaking out because the kid routinely pulls their tail when the cat is half blind and can't see the attacker? You correct the KID. If the Cat is attacking because the kid stepped on his tail by accident?
None of this happened on the show I've been talking about. Yet you keep escalating the severity of false events.
The cat was blind, unrelated to the kid's behavior or that of the rest of the family. The cat had PTSD, not caused by anything in any way malicious by anybody. And that was a sweet kid.
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SkeksisGirl — 11 years ago(May 11, 2014 08:18 PM)
And you have poor comprehension about the fact that while the kid can learn to change his behavior to suit a traumatized cat, the cat needs to be taught that things can change.
What you are screaming as child abuse is anything but.
"Slice, Pull, Staple, its a boy!" - Maul57
I can handle the whatever! -
SapphEyeR — 11 years ago(May 11, 2014 08:21 PM)
And you have poor comprehension about the fact that while the kid can learn to change his behavior to suit a traumatized cat, the cat needs to be taught that things can change.
Once more in English please?
The kid doesn't need to change his behavior. He did nothing wrong. -
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capricorn_72-1 — 11 years ago(May 05, 2014 10:11 AM)
Totally agree with you Lily. I had a boyfriend who did the same to me.. the ultimatum of he goes or the cats go.. I told him Id help him pack. YES he was a controlling person and very jealous. Our relationship ended about 5 years ago and I couldn't be happier.
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Abbykat — 11 years ago(May 19, 2014 08:06 AM)
Unlike a romantic partner, a pet is
completely
dependent on its owner for its well-being. Adopting a pet involves making a commitment to take responsibility for their life, and in most of the cases shown on the show, there are no bones made about the chances that the cats could find another home if they were given up to a shelter. Their problem behaviors all but guarantee that they will not be adopted and will instead end up being euthanized.
It's not as simple as saying that these people value animals over people. The cat owner never agreed to take responsibility for their boyfriend or girlfriend's life, and if the boyfriend or girlfriend leaves (whether over the cat or anything else) they're not going to die. The cat probably is.
The situation could, in a sense, be compared to a person's new romantic partner presenting them with a similar 'them or me' ultimatum over their child. You would justifiably never expect a parent to give up their child for the sake of a new love, and would probably think less of any parent who did. This isn't about the intrinsic value of the child as a human being over the adult. A lot of it comes down to the fact that the parent is responsible for the child's life, and the child is dependent on their parent to care for them.
Obviously it's not exactly the same - a cat is not a child - but the principle is similar. It's not just about the value of the animal or the person, it's about taking responsibility for a living thing that has no say in the matter and doesn't deserve to be casually abandoned for the sake of a new relationship.