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What the F happened to Eli Roth?

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    grazeswithgoats — 10 years ago(October 13, 2015 09:04 PM)

    You should check out Hemlock Grove before writing him off. I'm a long time fan of ER and it will probably go down in my book as his best work. Jury is still out on that as the final season, 3, is about to be released. And the people showing up to bash ER are just like soooooooo lame.
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      douces — 10 years ago(October 18, 2015 09:56 AM)

      Check out Hemlock Grove? It's horribly written, filmed, and acted mess. It's the first Netflix Original show to be canceled. Netflix is clearly embarrassed by that mess as they reduced the episode count, canceled it after season 2, and now are basically burying the release of season 3.

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        grazeswithgoats — 10 years ago(October 19, 2015 09:57 AM)

        Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, and wrong. That's your opinion, fine. I find it an amazingly fresh horror spin with mystery as enchanting as Twin Peaks. If being cancelled means it's bad you have no taste whatsoever. Season 3 wraps up the show, and has been planned as such for over a year. It's entirely possible Roth wants to complete it and move on, or that Famke Jansen feels the same.
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          douces — 10 years ago(October 20, 2015 06:47 PM)

          How can my opinion be wrong? It's just an opinion on something subjective. The acting, writing, cinematography are horrific. I can give you specific examples for each even.
          If being cancelled means it's bad you have no taste whatsoever
          This makes little to no sense. What does a show being cancelled have to do with my taste? Huh? If you think Hemlock Grove is a good show YOU have no taste whatsoever.
          Roth has very little involvement in the show, so even he wanted to back out (why would he?) the show could continue without him. Why did Netflix bury the release of the current season (the trailer went up just two weeks before it premieres)?
          Sure, you can make up all the excuses you want, but the evidence starts to add up that Netflix was embarrassed by Hemlock Grove:

          • Horrible critical reception for the show
          • Episode count reduced to 10 after first season
          • First Netflix Original show to be cancelled
          • Final season being released without promotion
          • The planned book series was also cancelled
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            grazeswithgoats — 10 years ago(October 20, 2015 07:55 PM)

            Need to decide if you associate cancellation and critical acclaim with quality or not. You chose to chime in on my recommendation, and I love the show regardless. Plans and pacing change when ratings aren't there. Take Bates Motel, Vera Farmiga is killing it as Norma Bates and overall it's a magnificent show, yet ratings are barely enough to keep it alive. I couldn't care less about ratings, which ultimately leads to cancellations. If you need someone with an agenda to tell you a show is good that's your choice. Johnny Depp has never won an Oscar, and I think he's a greatest of all time..
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              douces — 10 years ago(October 22, 2015 01:20 PM)

              Need to decide if you associate cancellation and critical acclaim with quality or not. You chose to chime in on my recommendation, and I love the show regardless. Plans and pacing change when ratings aren't there
              No, I don't think it is necessarily associated with the quality of the show, but I do think Netflix is embarrassed by the low quality of the show. Why else would they bury the final season? We also don't know if the ratings for Hemlock Grove are bad (the only info ever released on them indicated they were good) as Netflix does not make revenue from in-show advertisements.
              The reviews are also SO bad and so abundant that one has to take note. Keep in mind, I am one of the biggest Famke Janssen fans out there, so I was pumped and promoting the show everywhere (that is until I saw it). I would also include Cabin Fever in my top 100 favourite horror films of all time, so it's not like I have some bias against those involved. I just truly think it is a terrible show.
              First review for season 3 is in, and, what a shock, it's horrible. Never could have predicted that one!
              http://wegotthiscovered.com/tv/hemlock-grove-season-3-review/
              And this review is kind compared to some of the reviews of season 1 like the one from the
              http://www.avclub.com/tvclub/emhemlock-groveem-96734
              which is quite funny.

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                grazeswithgoats — 10 years ago(October 22, 2015 09:35 PM)

                Fair enough then but I love the show. The Mrs. and I both do. Its pacing is a bit off sometimes, and I don't care for the African American bro and sis hunters, but the atmosphere is intoxicating if you let yourself go into their world. I couldn't wait to see what the doc was hiding in the vat, sorry proper terminology has slipped since I last watched. Then what happened to Shelley was mind blowing. Eh just my take.
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                    davidlau17 — 10 years ago(October 14, 2015 05:16 PM)

                    Better than Knock Knock

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                      feelgoodbaby — 10 years ago(October 15, 2015 09:51 PM)

                      I disagree with most of you guys. Green Inferno was good, but Knock Knock indeed sucked. Keanu Reeves was the only good thing about it. The story and the other characters sucked. Green Inferno had all the elements, I don't know why people disliked it.

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                        leanne-kershaw1 — 10 years ago(January 16, 2016 01:56 PM)

                        I prefer Knock Knock, the special effects were rubbish and the film just dragged

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                            boydwalters — 10 years ago(October 16, 2015 03:08 PM)

                            For gods sake The guy is good at raising money Not making films It looks like he's conned some poor rich South Americans now to finance his rubbish How sad

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                              landa803 — 10 years ago(October 16, 2015 06:38 PM)

                              This Jewish boy is just a gore freak, throws in excessive violence and gore just for the sake of it and to up the ante for the shock value. If he wan't into movies dude would probably be a serial killer. 😐

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                                house-hold — 10 years ago(October 16, 2015 11:33 PM)

                                Seems like a 1 hit wonder.
                                oq no u no u s pu

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                                  lolitsadam — 10 years ago(October 17, 2015 12:30 AM)

                                  I really don't understand how anyone liked Cabin Fever. Mediocre indie virus movie. Hostel wasn't very great either.
                                  Green Inferno was much better. A movie made for lovers of the old cannibal classics.

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                                    grazeswithgoats — 10 years ago(October 19, 2015 10:09 AM)

                                    You either love his sense of humor or you don't. Gore contrasted with absurd humor like Winston the Party Man or kid yelling pancakes and doing a sweet ninja move.. You get it or you don't. Something amazingly witty is just lame from the wrong lens.take something like Aquateen Hunger Force for example.
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                                      katalist420 — 10 years ago(October 17, 2015 02:43 AM)

                                      Knock Knock was enjoyable, havn't seen The Green Inferno yet

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                                        pram_d — 10 years ago(October 17, 2015 03:38 AM)

                                        Having a new girlfriend you think he would get inspired,and create some of his best work.Like (argento did with suspiria).Unfortunately the exact opposite happened,he got distracted by the bomb ass pussy! And focused more on pleasing his woman to put her in his projects and less on pleasing the actual audience/fans!

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                                          gustobrunt — 10 years ago(October 18, 2015 02:03 AM)

                                          Hostel is not a classic. It's awful.

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