This is why you don't hire a Fast and Furious director.
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Syboat — 9 years ago(August 30, 2016 09:59 AM)
Not that I wish to disagree with you but $300 million dollars to make even with marketing seems a little excessive? I'm not sure what source you are using. When reviewers and such talk about this films budgets I don't hear them mention any additional marketing budget
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burnsmatthew2012 — 9 years ago(August 30, 2016 05:05 AM)
I would honestly not want Abrams to do another Star Trek film. And I really doubt he would anyway. He's directed three big science fiction franchise movies in the past 6 years and I think he do others things for a while now. No director has directed more than two movies in the Star Trek franchise anyway and that is probably a good thing as it keeps things fresh.
I really don't know who I would want to do the next one. I think it should be another new director to the franchise though. -
TRinzler — 9 years ago(August 30, 2016 05:24 AM)
I really don't know who I would want to do the next one. I think it should be another new director to the franchise though.
Doug Liman
(Edge of Tomorrow) or
Rian Johnson
(Looper) or Duncan Jones (Source Code, Moon). Alternatively, for a speculative choice, how about
David Yates
(Harry Potter)? And recruit
Nicholas Meyer
and
Andrew Niccol
to do the writing -
AudreyAwesome — 9 years ago(September 02, 2016 06:41 AM)
I don't blame the director. I blame the script. Once the enterprise crashed it killed the movie for me. You can't have two movies surrounding the enterprise, only to destroy it in the third. And the bring stranded part was terrible. The movie started out so promising. Most disappointing movie to me this year.
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tb-sch — 9 years ago(September 08, 2016 02:10 AM)
I liked it for its action and images, but totally get your disappointment: Instead of carefully tying elements into the story and puzzling them together, the script just throws a new idea at every problem. It felt lazy to destroy it entirely just to have them stranded and then to invent another space ship just to let it take off again and to allow it for some reason be stronger than the enterprise, which was defeated by the swarm within seconds. The power of plot armour was too much and a bit less of deus ex machina would have been nice.
And the "twist" at the end was hardly a great allegory but a pseudo-intellectual attempt to find some vague connection to the beginning, which felt utterly pointless to the degree that it was almost an insult to audience older than 10 years.
On the funny side, they try to cash in too much on the Spock/McCoy constellation. It was brilliant to let them get stranded together, but the movie then keeps them attached to each other and repeats the same like the kids who learned their first joke, telling it over and over again. -
TVholic — 9 years ago(September 13, 2016 05:25 PM)
You can't have two movies surrounding the enterprise, only to destroy it in the third.
Lest you forget, they spent minutes on end in
The Motion Picture
showing us an obsessive flyby of the refit Enterprise, which was so different from the original that it might as well have been a brand new ship. Then it was destroyed in
The Search for Spock
two movies and five years later, which beats this seven year stint. -
stagebandman — 9 years ago(September 13, 2016 08:21 PM)
Well, I have not seen any of the Fast & Furious movies, but I loved Beyond. I though Abrams did a fantastic job with the first Star Trek, but absolutely hated Into Darkness, totally unnecessary and convoluted. This was a great return to the spirit of Star Trek. The action was perfect, the subplots were believable, the idea of splitting everyone up on the planet was perfect, the music was excellent. The CGI, a few times, just didn't work, but that's certainly not the fault of the writers or director.
I could not have been more pleased with Star Trek Beyond. I'll watch for more from Justin Lin.
BTW, I'm old enough to have seen the very first episode of the original Star Trek series, in 1966.
If we all liked the same movie, there would only be one movie! -
BillyBeefcake — 9 years ago(September 13, 2016 08:37 PM)
I disagree OP.
It got great reviews. It had a A- score from viewers. People that saw it liked it.
The fact is Paramounts advertising was absolute shiz. That's it.
The masses didn't see it because they didn't know about it.