Beastie Boys scene killed it for me
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coiloftears — 9 years ago(August 15, 2016 10:11 AM)
Sorry but this was one of the most cringe worthy things I've seen in a movie theater, been going to the movies since the 70's. It was horrible and just literally capped off the crappy part of the movie. Horrible cringe and face palms all around
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AdmiralTugBenson — 9 years ago(August 15, 2016 11:02 PM)
Yeah, it kind of made me cringe, didn't kill the movie for me or anything. If they'd just stuck to the context of it being played through the speakers I don't think it would have been all that bad, but actually making it the soundtrack of the scene was kind of jarring. But to me it also seemed like a kind of classic Trek solution, besides the choice of music it seemed like a pretty typical pulled-out-of-their-butts Star Trek plan that saves the day. Only instead of Beastie Boys it would probably be some resonating frequency or some such technobabble. So it was very Trek-like and also not very Trek-like at the same time.
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P-K-One — 9 years ago(August 17, 2016 11:06 AM)
I was sitting in the cinema. I saw this coming about a minute before it actually played out and started laughing.
It was, without a doubt, the most stupid "kill the Aliens with a trick" scene in the history of cinema. From this moment forward nobody may ever complain about the computer virus in "independence day" again.
Generally I was very underwhelmed by this movie. The plot felt thin and was riddled with holes. It seemed they were more interested in getting from one action sequence to the next. And that Beastie Boys scene was the last straw. They could literally have stopped the movie at that point and cut in a scene of the director and writing team appearing on screen and stating that they did not take anything about this movie seriously and it would not have been any clearer. -
psdhart — 9 years ago(August 22, 2016 01:31 AM)
It was, without a doubt, the most stupid "kill the Aliens with a trick" scene in the history of cinema. From this moment forward nobody may ever complain about the computer virus in "independence day" again.
Generally I was very underwhelmed by this movie. The plot felt thin and was riddled with holes. It seemed they were more interested in getting from one action sequence to the next. And that Beastie Boys scene was the last straw.
They could literally have stopped the movie at that point and cut in a scene of the director and writing team appearing on screen and stating that they did not take anything about this movie seriously and it would not have been any clearer.
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beat — 9 years ago(November 13, 2016 12:53 PM)
It was, without a doubt, the most stupid "kill the Aliens with a trick" scene in the history of cinema. From this moment forward nobody may ever complain about the computer virus in "independence day" again.
the problem was not what it was, but how it was done. just look at "mars attacks!", where the same thing was used in a hilarious and fitting fashion. -
brch2 — 9 years ago(August 18, 2016 10:57 AM)
Would you be able to concentrate with that blasting through your speakers while having to fly in a very tight formation in an attack? And broadcasting on the frequency they were using for their computers to maintain all of that is just scrambling the signal, something that has been done for years to interrupt military radios and their abilities to coordinate attacks. So what's the problem? They came up with one of the least contrived methods ever to solve a crisis. And if you consider the fact it's far from the first time Trek has made jokes showing their views of our present are distorted by then (like ours are of our past), and that their tastes are not what our mainstream tastes would be, it's actually a reasonable scene. Frankly, I'm just glad they haven't started to resort to making some new modification to the deflector dish (or weapons systems, or any other over contrived use of their basic systems) to solve everything already.
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Foot_of_Davros — 9 years ago(August 19, 2016 01:45 AM)
Would you be able to concentrate with that blasting through your speakers while having to fly in a very tight formation in an attack? And broadcasting on the frequency they were using for their computers to maintain all of that is just scrambling the signal, something that has been done for years to interrupt military radios and their abilities to coordinate attacks. So what's the problem?
You've just given the problem in your two preceding sentences here- It is pretty much impossible that there could have been any music "blasting" anywhere other than the bridge of the Franklin.
- As you pointed out, they broadcast on the same frequency to "scramble" communication within the swarm - that would be by wave interference. So even in the hugely unlikely event that they were receiving verbal directional instructions on an analogue transmission (!),
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transmissions would be subject to interference
In other words, they came up with nonsense simply because it played out as a "cool" scene, with Sabotage blaring out as ships exploded everywhere!
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TRinzler — 9 years ago(August 19, 2016 01:56 AM)
I don't see how these are problems? We discussed this already in another thread. There was no need to play the music on the bridge but it was included for dramatic effect.
Unfortunately, as you mentioned in your thread, this part has confused so many people that I am starting to wonder if the writers were confused too!
I actually like the scene because of Spock's improvised hijack of their collision avoidance. I think you can appreciate this better once you understand swarm dynamics.
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Foot_of_Davros — 9 years ago(August 19, 2016 02:28 AM)
Yeah, I know we discussed on the other thread - and yes, as I said there as well, I did find it enjoyable, as a spectacle, whilst watching. I was only really replying in order to point out the misunderstanding in brch2's post in terms of a "least contrived method"
I am starting to wonder if the writers were confused too!
It's funny you said that - either yes they were, or (and no one on my thread actually discussed this, but it was my original thought) it was a deliberate, subtle, joke at the expense at those complaining the reboots weren't "cerebral" / Star Trek-ish enough.
I think you can appreciate this better once you understand swarm dynamics.
Ha - It's not that I don't understand your take on it, its just that I preferred to think of another method being used for collision avoidance (I don't know - proximity sensors of some other kind - maybe cameras / "artificial eye") rather than thousands of overlapping communication transmissions, which would just make the Franklin's one additional transmission completely redundant.
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TRinzler — 9 years ago(August 19, 2016 02:48 AM)
It's funny you said that - either yes they were, or (and no one on my thread actually discussed this, but it was my original thought) it was a deliberate, subtle, joke at the expense at those complaining the reboots weren't "cerebral" / Star Trek-ish enough
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imaintdan — 9 years ago(August 18, 2016 09:25 PM)
Itworks for me. But I can get others finding it too much.
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