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So much fuss over 10 seconds? Surely it's a joke?

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    Apex57 — 9 years ago(December 10, 2016 01:16 PM)

    They're playing the same character. By making this Sulu gay, they are retroactively making Takei's Sulu gay too.

    This comment was typed in front of a live studio audience.

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      Kyumonryu — 9 years ago(December 18, 2016 05:33 AM)

      It's a reboot. They did not change the original star trek with it. And honestly, who gives a flying turd what sjw Takei thinks? That dude is a complete joke.
      but they hung him anyway.
      Hanged, Ami. Your father was not a tapestry.

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        broforcesquad — 9 years ago(January 04, 2017 06:52 PM)

        I never really got why Takei was so upset about it, but he is entitled to his opinion. It seems like in Beyond they made Sulu gay to try and be more inclusive and represent different socio cultural groups in the film. Hopefully that's how most people interpreted it.
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          donbizzaro — 9 years ago(October 03, 2016 12:02 PM)

          These folks are guilty of disservice to the entire crew of characters.
          The whole thing is a circle jerk imo.

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            raistian77 — 9 years ago(October 09, 2016 05:11 PM)

            "We should be honoring Gene We should be paying tribute to him rather than to me because it's not really about me. Yes I am gay, and I am an active advocate for LGBT equality, but don't pay tribute to me. It's not about me, or Sulu. It's about Gene and what he did."Takei
            What he wanted was a new character to be LGBT, but fully endorsed the idea of a gay character in Star Trek Beyond. He did NOT think it was bullcrap at all, he thought that changing an existing character would be a lazy and too easy way to do it.
            I noticed people seem to be pretending that Mr. Takei's reaction to Sulu being gay was that the writers were "forcing" the LGBT lifestyle on the audience, that is incorrect his reaction was more "about time"
            "I said, 'Oh at long last, the issue of LGBT people is being introduced into Star Trek.' I had been campaigning for a long time on that."Takei
            He just thought personally the creative way to do it right is to introduce a new character that was LGBT and not to change an existing character.

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              jakkfrost — 9 years ago(October 15, 2016 07:06 AM)

              Well I personally thought it was cool, but I understand George's position too.
              Tommy how's the peeping?

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                mitzibishi — 9 years ago(October 23, 2016 09:56 AM)

                George took pride in his ability to play a character that was different from himself
                Well you could say he played that character in life until he came out.

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                  DTWD — 9 years ago(October 02, 2016 02:32 AM)

                  Was it even 10 seconds?
                  But yeah, some people have got some serious problems if they can get upset by something as innocuous as that. If we hadn't been told going in I don't think a lot of people would have even registered it as a gay relationship.

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                    docp — 9 years ago(November 01, 2016 04:10 AM)

                    I never even noticed it! It must, therefore, have seemed perfectly natural and innocuous.

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                      lantzn — 9 years ago(November 25, 2016 05:23 PM)

                      Same here, but I wasn't even aware of this talk of him being gay in the first place. I just found out about it in the thread. That said, I honestly thought the guy was either a father or older brother, it never even dawned on me a partner.

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                        Foot_of_Davros — 9 years ago(October 02, 2016 05:40 AM)

                        The one thing I hated about the gay Sulu scene was the missed opportunity to make his partner look almost exactly like Kirk - so much so, that when Kirk looked over he had to do a double take (like that pigeon in Moonraker).
                        That would have been truly awesome, been something William Shatner and George Takei would have appreciated, and set up some great tention in subsequent bridge scenes.
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                          knytrydr — 9 years ago(October 02, 2016 10:30 AM)

                          What point did it serve? It did not add to the story. It was a token gesture that not even Takei himself liked.
                          It was just a meaningless "Oh look we are so progressive" action. Symbolism over substance

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                            Arfpint — 9 years ago(October 02, 2016 02:23 PM)

                            I agree that it was pointless, but at the same time, why is it "progressive"? It's just some guy meeting his partner after a long time away.
                            It's just a tiny meaningless moment of two people re-uniting, that's it.
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                              knytrydr — 9 years ago(October 02, 2016 02:27 PM)

                              It's "progressive" because the writers amd producers made such a big deal about the fact they did it.

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                                stevefisher — 9 years ago(October 07, 2016 11:17 AM)

                                They did? When?

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                                  knytrydr — 9 years ago(October 07, 2016 07:48 PM)

                                  Since before the movie got released in the theaters.

                                  Star Trek Canon is more of what you'd call guidelines then actual rules!

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                                    jakkfrost — 9 years ago(October 18, 2016 12:28 PM)

                                    I didn't even know about it til I saw the movie a few days ago.
                                    Tommy how's the peeping?

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                                      timothy-jan-atkins — 9 years ago(October 07, 2016 10:40 PM)

                                      I found it annoying that his dude was asian as well. Why not mexican?

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                                        persen1 — 9 years ago(October 21, 2016 05:48 PM)

                                        I found it annoying that his dude was asian as well. Why not mexican?
                                        Most likely because of their daughters name: Demora Sulu
                                        I doubt the baby you see his partner is carrying would end up with a pure Asian name, if Sulu's partner was a Mexican, Afro American, Caucasian or what ever other ethnic background his partner would have.

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                                          timothy-jan-atkins — 9 years ago(October 07, 2016 10:41 PM)

                                          I found it annoying that his dude was asian as well. Why not mexican? and why no kiss?

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