So much fuss over 10 seconds? Surely it's a joke?
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broforcesquad — 9 years ago(January 04, 2017 06:52 PM)
I never really got why Takei was so upset about it, but he is entitled to his opinion. It seems like in Beyond they made Sulu gay to try and be more inclusive and represent different socio cultural groups in the film. Hopefully that's how most people interpreted it.
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raistian77 — 9 years ago(October 09, 2016 05:11 PM)
"We should be honoring Gene We should be paying tribute to him rather than to me because it's not really about me. Yes I am gay, and I am an active advocate for LGBT equality, but don't pay tribute to me. It's not about me, or Sulu. It's about Gene and what he did."Takei
What he wanted was a new character to be LGBT, but fully endorsed the idea of a gay character in Star Trek Beyond. He did NOT think it was bullcrap at all, he thought that changing an existing character would be a lazy and too easy way to do it.
I noticed people seem to be pretending that Mr. Takei's reaction to Sulu being gay was that the writers were "forcing" the LGBT lifestyle on the audience, that is incorrect his reaction was more "about time"
"I said, 'Oh at long last, the issue of LGBT people is being introduced into Star Trek.' I had been campaigning for a long time on that."Takei
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DTWD — 9 years ago(October 02, 2016 02:32 AM)
Was it even 10 seconds?
But yeah, some people have got some serious problems if they can get upset by something as innocuous as that. If we hadn't been told going in I don't think a lot of people would have even registered it as a gay relationship. -
lantzn — 9 years ago(November 25, 2016 05:23 PM)
Same here, but I wasn't even aware of this talk of him being gay in the first place. I just found out about it in the thread. That said, I honestly thought the guy was either a father or older brother, it never even dawned on me a partner.
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Foot_of_Davros — 9 years ago(October 02, 2016 05:40 AM)
The one thing I hated about the gay Sulu scene was the missed opportunity to make his partner look almost exactly like Kirk - so much so, that when Kirk looked over he had to do a double take (like that pigeon in Moonraker).
That would have been truly awesome, been something William Shatner and George Takei would have appreciated, and set up some great tention in subsequent bridge scenes.
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Arfpint — 9 years ago(October 02, 2016 02:23 PM)
I agree that it was pointless, but at the same time, why is it "progressive"? It's just some guy meeting his partner after a long time away.
It's just a tiny meaningless moment of two people re-uniting, that's it.
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persen1 — 9 years ago(October 21, 2016 05:48 PM)
I found it annoying that his dude was asian as well. Why not mexican?
Most likely because of their daughters name: Demora Sulu
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martin3-3 — 9 years ago(October 18, 2016 02:08 PM)
Of course it was pointless. Do you folks really don't get it? In the times of Startrek TOS, there had to be a black actor in it. Uhura. She didn't do much else than looking good and saying Yes Captain. But she was there because she was black. And that was a good thing. That's what made Whoopie Goldberg join the Startrek universe. Today we have the situation that producers seem to be forced to put some gay people in every TV show. It is required, obviously. The big problem is that while it is absolutely right and positive to see people of different colours of skin on screen, with gays it is a different story. Many normal, heterosexual people, are offended by this and with good reason. While being black, or red, or "yellow" is completely normal in nature, being gay is against nature because nature wants its creatures to reproduce. The put gay people in TV-shows or movies without any other reason than that there have to be gays too, will result in the producers loosing a lot of their audiences. When I saw those pirates kissing each other in Black Sails, I stopped watching the show immediatly. I absolutely support that gays have the same rights and should not be discriminated in daily life! We are all human beings, after all. However, it shouldn't be shown so often in movies and shows. That is contraproductive and does not serve the cause of gay people at all. That's my opinion. End of transmission.