A sociopath or a psychopath?
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goo-goo-ga-ga — 10 years ago(April 13, 2015 11:02 PM)
Aspberger's and anti-social personality disorder are two very different things. It's an unfortunate misconception that people on the autism spectrum lack empathy. They don't. Their feelings are as profound as the average person's. They simply find social expression more challenging.
It's possible he has both. Psychopathy is a personality disorder while Aspberger's is a developmental disability. -
Lady_Elaine_Fairchild — 10 years ago(December 13, 2015 07:03 PM)
Hearing him talk to people, you think they're going to chuck him right out (like how he treated Nina!) - but they don't.
You are right in your last sentence IMO He does understand people-to a fault. He immediately sizes up their strengths and weaknesses and uses them to his advantage. Emotions just get in the way of that.
Is not right or wrong He was born that way.
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BenignPillows — 10 years ago(December 14, 2015 02:07 PM)
You are right in your last sentence IMO He does understand people-to a fault. He immediately sizes up their strengths and weaknesses and uses them to his advantage. Emotions just get in the way of that.
Yeah, that's why I went with psychopath instead of Asperger's.
I guess this is why they usually say (intelligent) psychopaths shouldn't be allowed into therapy - all they do is learn new ways to manipulate people.
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Silent_Bob01 — 10 years ago(April 06, 2015 08:23 AM)
Ugh. Don't go throwing around terms without understanding their meaning.
Schizophrenia is completely different from psychopathy. Schizophrenics are mentally ill and need to be treated with medication. Psychopaths are NOT mentally illthey're simply very dangerous personality types. -
Boni-The-Sock — 10 years ago(April 05, 2015 10:48 PM)
Some understand that the main difference between psychos and socios is that psychos can't control their urge to kill. Socios, on the other hand, don't feel this urge to kill, they just despise other human beings, and dislike most of human interactions. They do whatever it takes to survive, even if it means to kill (which doesn't mean they enjoy it).
In other words, psychos are sick people without conscience who lack guilt or/and empathy. Socios are antisocial criminals capable of anything.
English is not my primary language, but at least I speak more than you. -
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Silent_Bob01 — 10 years ago(April 07, 2015 08:53 PM)
Why? Because it was a fascinating movie and Gyllenhaal's performance was brilliant and layered. He used a facade of a dorky, awkward individual to mask the fact that he was a pure psychopath (and yes, a scumbag).
I think that's worth exploring. It's not like this was some mindless action film like The Expendables. Not that I don't enjoy mindless action, but there's nothing to analyze there, UNLIKE with a film like Nightcrawler. -
PorcelainX — 10 years ago(April 22, 2015 04:13 AM)
I would classify him like a movie monster. A caricature analog of human behavior lacking the depth or realism of it's sources of inspiration. Kind of like how The Creature from the Black Lagoon could just be an analog of a lecherous unattractive person, or King Kong could be a combination of archaic racial stereotypes and a violent criminal. The character has no backstory, so has no dots to be connected. What's presented seems to be mixture of Autism, Antisocial and Sociopathic behavior. The problem is these don't typically fit together and and If his character is taken as anything to define reality by, one might look at someone on the autistic spectrum and think they have no empathy, morality or remorse or even be capable of murder, which is not the case. Taking reality into defining the character would mean that his definition defined an aspect of reality, which he probably doesn't. However, taken as a fictional person (which he is) he wouldn't be as compelling if he made sense. He's a high functioning, non empathetic, Autistic Sociopath. A unicorn of dysfunction.
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The_Mob_Has_Spoken — 10 years ago(June 10, 2015 12:32 PM)
OP is saying the same dumb stuff I hear a lot of lay people saying on the internet re: sociopathy versus psychopathology. There is no difference (or the difference is strictly academic), the two terms are essentially interchangeable (and outdated).
"Ass to ass. Ha ha ha ha. ASS TO ASS!" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oa5z77EI8y0 -
nolanfan — 10 years ago(July 03, 2015 06:06 AM)
A: Axis I OCD (obsessive compulsive disorder), Autism spectrum disorder
Axis II Antisocial Personality Disorder
P :- Neuropsych Testing for more conclusive diagnosis in autism spectrum
- Start SSRI depending on family history or personal history. If none, Paxil 20 MG with plan on increasing up to 80 mg depending onside effects
- Continue CBT model therapy
That was two hours, $500 dollars please
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Cydramech — 10 years ago(July 25, 2015 05:09 PM)
How about neither? Just because he didn't sugarcoat his words with a bunch of bulls**t, and knew what he wanted doesn't mean he was a psychopath/sociopath.
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lancer165 — 10 years ago(July 28, 2015 11:40 AM)
I started watching and saw someone who was almost a constantly smiling simpleton of sorts. Here he was drifting through his pathetic life and then suddenly he possesses the wealth of knowledge of all the self help guru books with an almost photographic memory coupled with some anti social qualities and what would seem like mental faults that would keep any psychotherapist busy. I just did not get this transformation in a non earning [in at least honest work] character to one which was soon able to be entrepreneurial.
