Why this movie is getting hate.
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DeusExKatrina — 10 years ago(December 14, 2015 06:42 PM)
I don't understand why people don't like it. But it'd be far too easy just to blame it on modern tastes. Some reviewers I trust, who definitely know their way around classic horror, have also expressed their distaste for the film. Jon Schnepp even said they should have rereleased Rare Exports instead which is utterly absurd, Rare Exports doesn't even come close to Krampus in quality.
Suffice to say, different people have different taste. Some people didn't like the film, that's fine. Many did like it, and it's made far more money than expected, so that's great.
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fleshrequiem — 10 years ago(December 14, 2015 08:02 PM)
Well, my respect for Jon Schnepp utterly withered. And what is with all the praise for Rare Exports? I didn't think it was that good to be honest.
These types of films usually take a while to get established in cult status. Once time passes I think we'll see more and more catch on to the joy of this film. I've seen mainly positive reviews (Empire, Red Letter Media, IGN) and a majority of people really liked it.
I read a review from a so called horror expert. This was a person who trashed Krampus yet praised Victor Frankenstein. That alone should say something I think. -
DeusExKatrina — 10 years ago(December 14, 2015 09:04 PM)
I agree 100% with your opinion on Krampus and Rare Exports but I don't think you should lose respect for a critic just based on what they do or don't like. I think why they like or don't like something is more important, and Schnepp would have to write an actual review for us to learn that. Plus, Schnepp was in a bad mood and he was crapping on everything today so he'd probably be more level headed about Krampus on a later date.
I definitely think the "hate" for Krampus is overrated. Everything gets hate on the internet, we can't interpret that as the general consensus because that's not reality, that's the vocal minority. Most people seem to be loving Krampus so I don't even think we'll have to wait for it to become a cult classic, I think it'll already be a classic.
I mean, do I think Krampus is the #1 best movie of all-time? No, of course not. But how many good Christmas horror films are there out there? Not many. Most of the "good" ones are barely decent, the only real classics are Black Christmas and Gremlins. Will Krampus stand proud in that crowd? Definitely, it easily earns a spot above all the second and third tier Christmas horror movies.
As for Rare Exports very, very, very cool concept. Awesome atmosphere. And then it kind of beep the bed at the end. Becomes totally goofy and
the monster never even gets out of the ice. What a weak ending!
I love Rare Exports and it's a yearly watch for me around Christmas time but that just goes to show you how few good Christmas horror films there are. Krampus is much, much better written in terms of follow through, so I think we'll definitely see it become a classic at least on the level of Rare Exports.
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fleshrequiem — 10 years ago(December 15, 2015 09:32 AM)
Oh it's more of a case of me questioning a critic and his taste in film, especially is he professes to be a horror fan. Maybe I'm getting old and cranky (sad reality) but one someone calls Boris Karloff a "bore and a snooze" and Vincent Price an "overcooked ham" in his reviews, I know that the person and I have nothing to talk about. As for Schnepp, I love the guy but man does he seem more and more irritated about everything as of late. Not that I blame him.
Put it this way, there was a father and son who walked out of Krampus (I work in a movie theater) with huge grins on their faces. When I asked them did they like it, I think the father gave a more enthusiastic response than his kid! I popped my head in earlier in the day for the theater. Krampus was the only movie selling well, and the auditorium was reasonably packed. I heard laughs at the jokes, screams at a few parts and more grinning faces than irritated ones. I think it just seems like a lot of people "hate" the film because they all might swarm in one place (ie imdb, facebook)
Black Christmas, Gremlins, Puppet Master vs Demonic Toys (okay, that last one is bad, but still
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I guess I loved Krampus so much because it was a nice throwback without getting caught up in it's own nostalgia. As a youngster I always loved practical effects, stopmotion, puppets. Ray Harryhausen, David Allen, Tsubaraya were all heroes of mine. Be it old Godzilla films, the PuppetMaster series or Joe Dante's romps, I've always held such films close to my heart. Krampus reminded me of such films, and managed to still carve out its own niche and identity. -
ButcherOfLuverne — 10 years ago(December 15, 2015 04:43 AM)
Thanks for the feedback - and I agree 100%. People have different tastes; I just find it amazing that people wanted more gore from this movie. Krampus was never a gore-based legend, and It's odd that some people expected A Jigsaw Christmas.
Also, Rare Exports was like a 6. Krampus' cast and moral outdo it in sheer quality; though Rare Exports had the best Santa ever.
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JudgeNotLestYeBeJudgeReinhold — 10 years ago(February 25, 2016 02:23 PM)
I didn't really care for the ending. Other than that, I thought it was pretty awesome. And even though I didn't like the end, it didn't ruin the movie for me. It'll definitely be on around the holidays in my house
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DeusExKatrina — 10 years ago(December 14, 2015 09:07 PM)
Nightmare Before Christmas is more than generally well-liked, it's a downright classic! This guy just has a grudge against christmas & halloween for some reason.
But you're perfectly right, Krampus has absolutely nothing to do with Halloween, other than a couple of mild visual allusions to Trick 'r Treat. Not sure why the poster considers Krampus to be Halloween-related unless they consider ALL horror movies to be inherently related to Halloween.
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AntoNEO — 10 years ago(December 14, 2015 09:25 PM)
Nightmare Before Christmas is more than generally well-liked, it's a downright classic!
You're right, and I completely agree. I was just using understatement for the sake of argument.
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Wolfbrother1983 — 9 years ago(May 13, 2016 03:10 PM)
"Silent Night Deadly Night" came out in the 80s. "Black Christmas" was 1974. Tales From The Crypt's "And All Through The House" was in the 70s flickso the horror at Christmas ship sailed a long time ago.
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AntoNEO — 10 years ago(December 14, 2015 09:51 PM)
So far all of my friends have liked it, so that's been encouraging. But then, we're all 80s kids who grew up on Amblin and Evil Dead movies, so I guess that's not too surprising. Nostalgia aside though, those types of horror movies are still my favorite because they were allowed to be creative, humorous, and above all, FUN. There was a level of showmanship that seems to be missing from most of today's by-the-numbers horror movies that are mostly about cheap jump scares.
Krampus is a perfectly legitimate way to make a horror movie; I think it mostly seems strange to some viewers because it has a unique voice - something that's sorely lacking in Hollywood genre movies today. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy those movies too, but it's hard to break out of an established mold these days, so we get kinda used to always seeing the same thing. But that's what I love about Krampus, it's actually different from every other horror movie out there right now (plus it taps into everything I love about the genre). I'm glad to see it's making money so that being different can be seen as a good thing rather than box office death. -
Patrilot — 10 years ago(December 16, 2015 01:51 AM)
I'm a huge horror fan and I thoroughly enjoyed it myself.. I totally get what you mean. People don't understand this isn't meant to be a horrifying, scary horror movie.. A lot of horror movies are not to be honest. Hell, if the criteria for a horror movie is "how scary it is" then the genre would fall out of existence long ago. It's annoying that the general populous just doesn't understand that. I personally think horror is the most diverse genre and can mix well with just about any other.. In this case, comedy.
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ImInTheater — 10 years ago(December 16, 2015 11:30 PM)
I actually didn't think the movie was overtly comedic and balanced it pretty well. Even if the gingerbread men were campy and actually pretty cuteThey were still scary! If we were really in that situation, it wouldn't be funny at all. The characters acted pretty realistically I thought, though I did think they handled the missing children a little more with campy revenge than real familial grief, I figured that was to keep it light. I actually didn't think the movie was much a comedy towards the middle to the end and was more of a heartless mockery by Krampus that you laugh along with or feel the hopelessness of no sympathy.
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fistoffury — 10 years ago(December 17, 2015 09:53 AM)
Krampus might be technically a Christmas character but he is also more along the lines of somebody you would run into on Halloween, being a horror character and all. I just don't think Christmas and Halloween go good together, they're exact opposites. They even tried this with the Addams Family where for Halloween the Addams Family were singing "Halloween Carols" and getting "Halloween Presents" under some Great Pumpkin prop they had put up. I don't think it worked out.
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DuffyBuffet — 10 years ago(December 17, 2015 11:38 AM)
Christmas has always had a long list of scary legends that are somewhat horrific. It has nothing to do with Halloween at all. Look up the Yule cat. It was known to eat people who were lazy. There is also Frau Perchta, a Christmas witch who would punish the sinful. She was known to rip out a persons internal organs and replace them with straw or pebbles.
None of these legends, including Krampus, have anything to do with the holiday of Halloween. These are ancient Christmas legends that date back to a time before Hallmark greeting cards and the modernization of the American version of Christmas. Some of these traditions are still celebrated today. Krampusnacht continues to be very popular in parts of Europe.
You would not run into Krampus on Halloween because he is part of the legend of St. Nicholas. While St. Nicholas gives gifts Krampus punishes the bad children. Ever hear of getting coal in your stocking for being bad? That is a direct refernce to these stories. -
KingCobra686 — 9 years ago(May 11, 2016 04:15 PM)
I just don't think Christmas and Halloween go good together, they're exact opposites.
This is a very simplistic view of those holidays. Halloween is more than just horror movies and Christmas is more than just cheesy Santa movies. Like others have said, there are tons of dark elements to Christmas.
Winter can be a spooky time of the year, especially in snowy regions like those that celebrate Krampusnacht. Daytime is very limited, its cold and dreary out, its a dangerous time of the year for those limited on food or shelter, etc -
C-Younkin — 10 years ago(January 02, 2016 10:45 PM)
From the trailer alone, that made it out to look like it was trying to go for laughs and scares. You can do that by the way, i'm not sure why a film counts as stupid just because it tries to do both. This flick does an ok job of doing it, not as good as Evil Dead 2 or anything which is like the height of combining both but not as bad as I was expecting either.
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reddukewaldo — 10 years ago(January 03, 2016 06:06 PM)
i enjoyed it. will watch again, a bit of laughter horror. i don't understand why it was pulled out of theaters, in my city, i had to travel within my metro area to see it. it had disappeared from theater houses near my home.
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wartengu — 10 years ago(January 11, 2016 11:55 PM)
I haven't even see it and I hate it. Predictable, Lame and cheesy add to that poor acting, effects, etc. You got yourself a blockbuster "B" flick. Come on, did you really expect anything else? There will never be another Nightmare on Elm Street, Halloween, Exorcist, etc. The only thing you can expect now is cheap thrills and that's why horror is practically off my radar. While the mainstream "everything is awesome" crowd is entrenched in cheap remakes and crappy wannabes, I'm watching the original classics.