Am I the only one who didn't like it?
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CinderFall — 10 years ago(December 05, 2015 04:56 PM)
i dont need any google picture search cause i am austrian and its one of our traditions.
its like a martian is coming and telling you how Santa Claus has to look like.
That right there is where I stopped caring for your argument. You drove a good point up until these two sentences. I really hated that you sank your own perfectly fine ship with those two sentences. Where you said
i dont need any google picture search cause i am austrian
made me so mad. Well, you know what? I'm from Texas, I don't like the interpretation people had of cowboys, so therefore, I don't need to look at pictures of the real deal because I know what they are. That's how idiotic that sounds. Just because you grew up with that folklore doesn't mean its specifically isolated to how you view it. There are many interpretations of Krampus across many cultures and there is always going to be a differentiation on how it looks. Just like how the boogeyman that I grew up with was a giant bloody creature that eats the heads of children that see it (yeah, my parents were a little cruel. But I was fine with it, it got me to sleep, so it worked). And then you have the audacity to say
its like a martian is coming and telling you how Santa Claus has to look like.
Well whoop-de-doo-dah. The martian is allowed to have his views. Get off your high horse, just because its of a central European (not isolated to Austria) origin does not mean any other interpretation of it is wrong. -
maxi13 — 10 years ago(December 06, 2015 07:30 AM)
you are right, those 2 sentences were not okay
though there is no other interpretation of the tradition, because the tradition is how it is.
there is (obviously) a interpretation of the figure of Krampus,
which is leaving the old tradition.
and the tradition is very well a special Austrian tradition!
it can be found just in Austria, Bavaria and parts of other countries, which used to be Austria.
heartland of this tradition is still Austria and in those other countries its still very rarely
and even there its following the tradition.
the film is leaving this tradition, but its okay.
its leaving the tradition because it connects Krampus with Christmas,
which is wrong.
and which produces a wrong picture of Austria too. -
maxi13 — 10 years ago(December 05, 2015 07:06 AM)
f.ex. you dont say anything about the snowmen, the elves entering the room, and so on
are this well made plot-twists in your opinion, or what?
and the film makers wanted them that way,
so dont say anything against it? -
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tylerstro — 10 years ago(December 05, 2015 07:44 AM)
I saw this movie twicethe first time I saw it I was a little disappointed because I had expectations. When I watched it again it was so much better because I knew what was coming and could appreciate it for what it was and the decisions the filmmaker made. I would have liked a few things to be a little different, but face it, a remake isn't happening (at least not for 20 yearsby this set of filmmakers anyway). Accepting it for what it is made a huge difference and I like this movie.
The arguments about it being worth an 8 or a 10, Maxi? Again, all of this is opinion. A movie you give a 10, I could give a 5 and this argument starts all over again.
I like this movie and I give it an 8. I love Trick R Treat and I give it a 10.my favorite Halloween movie ever. I like Michale Dougherty and want to see what he has up his sleeve. So I hope this movie is someone else's 10, even if it was only an 8 for me.
Go Krampus!! -
maxi13 — 10 years ago(December 05, 2015 08:09 AM)
if you really liked that film so much and think its an extraordinary good one and rate it with 8, then its okay.
the same with TrT: if its one of your alltime favorites without any bad points then 10 is the rating to go.
i do it the same way!
but Krampus gets a huge amount of 10s,
then there is a gap
and its getting normal again with 7s, 6s and so on.
thats quite unusual and someone can think that people who like films just gave a 10 or a 1
and dont really think about the qualities of a film.
such ratings are ruining the system
and they didnt made a rating system between 1 and 10 just for fun.
a 10 should be given just in special cases, -
TheArtofHorror — 10 years ago(December 05, 2015 09:13 AM)
Thank you for your input. It really seems like you have experience with film and know when something works and when it does not. I think maybe the people who really like this movie haven't watched as many movies as we have, so they don't know what is possible. There is greatness out there that would make your jaw drop and head spin, but if you've never seen those movies, you don't know what's possible. We know the best of the best and can compare respectively! I agree with almost everything you wrote thank you.
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cgrill8 — 10 years ago(December 30, 2015 09:58 AM)
I wouldn't call this a 'horror' movie in the modern sense of the word. More like in the very OLD sense of the word. Back when horror was left up to the imagination and much happened off screen of behind a lit bed sheet so we can see the shadows of what's going on, but actually seeing it happen. I really didn't see this as a horror movie. It was creepy, fun, wierd, dark and Christmasy it was an odd mix, but a good mix (if the language was toned down, I'd try to take my 7 year old to see it to freak him out for fun.
If you think you're going to see heads spin and blood spurt everywhere no, this isn't that type of movie. I really liked it! Now I pretty much spoiled everything HERE before I went and saw it, but I still really enjoyed it, and would love to see it again. I'm not allowed to spend any of the money overflowing in my bank account anymore not even for a $1.50 movie or even a 20 oz drink on sale for $1 so I won't be seeing it any time soon, and what I did TO see it, was luck in itself.
I didn't have ANY problems with the art work, the masks or the look of the film. Can't believe all the gripes some people had with this movie. But that's their issue. They don't like it, they don't like it. I still don't like comparing this to Gremlins. Gremlins freaks my kids out too and we SEE people get killed or nearly killed in THAT movie. Stripe scratches up Billy pretty good and goes after him with every sharp tool and bow and arrow he can find mono e mono and how disgusting (and cool) the blob Stripe becomes after he turns to goo. Hate he was near comedy in the sequel oh well. But what worked for Gremlins was how serious all the cast members were in the movie. Their believability really help force the weight of the situation to the audience.
Krampus isn't like that. We're nearly taught to NOT like the family. It's hard to take the people seriously, because what they are experiencing they can't believe it themselves. Krampus yet comes off much more serious than Gremlins, because they are fending for their lives collectively especially near the end. Krampus DOES become much more serious and less the comic book humor of Gremlins. But explaining the masks (esp the elves) makes sense it that they may have 'fallen out; with Santa and decided to work for Krampus instead and hiding their faces out of fear or what not so to speak. But I loved the masks. It gave it an otherwordly feel to it, almost that 'over the pond' old European/Germania look. I kind of imagined they could have made their masks from wood from the Black Forest (where many Kukoo Clocks used to be made from - I have one btw) or something along those lines.
I remember really trying to look at Krampus's face when we saw it and at first I thought it WAS his face but then sort of saw the Santa face it was strange but fit. I enjoyed it and can't wait to see it again. I finally saw Star Wars last night, but I still want to see Krampus again
3rd generation American from a long line of Gottscheers it was Drandul, dude!
or cancer. All the best from Germany!! (I'm from GERMANY, YOU KNOW!?)