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  3. …it was concluded that nurture wins out in the end over nature.

…it was concluded that nurture wins out in the end over nature.

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    ToastedCheese — 3 years ago(April 20, 2022 11:17 PM)

    Like it said in the film, they belonged together, that was why they were born triplets. It was a base and asinine social experiment that wasn't worth the unethical aspects behind an obvious reasoning.
    It made me shudder when one of the parents went back in to collect a personal item from the agency after the meeting to get answers and exclaimed he saw them toasting glasses.
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      I love hutch — 3 years ago(April 20, 2022 11:31 PM)

      It made me shudder when one of the parents went back in to collect a personal item from the agency after the meeting to get answers and exclaimed he saw them toasting glasses.
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      Me as well. Like the father said, they were toasting because they had just gotten away with it. Very, very disturbing.
      "My life is over. I might as well dance with Johnny Slash!"

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        ToastedCheese — 3 years ago(April 20, 2022 11:34 PM)

        they were toasting because they had just gotten away with it. Very, very disturbing.
        This is unfortunately an insidious aspect of many ruling over the status quo in an establishment and yet these people present themselves as professional role models. 😈🐍
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          I love hutch — 3 years ago(April 20, 2022 11:38 PM)

          To them, it's just a game.
          "My life is over. I might as well dance with Johnny Slash!"

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            ToastedCheese — 3 years ago(April 20, 2022 11:40 PM)

            They look down on many as pawns, yet forget they can still be eliminated from the game themselves.
            Norman! What did you put in my tea?

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              Cheeky — 3 years ago(April 20, 2022 07:15 PM)

              I heard of their story here at the forum
              What a crime to separate those babies. The two that are still living turned out to look very different from each other as they grew older
              If we take the time to see with the heart and not with the mind, we shall see that we are surrounded completely by angels ~ Carlos Santana

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                ToastedCheese — 3 years ago(April 20, 2022 11:18 PM)

                They all appeared to be lively, intelligent vibrant boys even if raised in different backgrounds. When they saw each other, it was authentic and genuine love at first sight.
                Norman! What did you put in my tea?

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                  Cheeky — 3 years ago(April 20, 2022 11:21 PM)

                  I know! And it's so disturbing that one took their own life
                  If we take the time to see with the heart and not with the mind, we shall see that we are surrounded completely by angels ~ Carlos Santana

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                    ToastedCheese — 3 years ago(April 20, 2022 11:29 PM)

                    There was likely a lot more going on here than was disclosed. It would have been personal deeper darker demons with Eddy. I'm not so sure if this aspect was related to the separation.
                    Norman! What did you put in my tea?

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                      Cheeky — 3 years ago(April 20, 2022 11:34 PM)

                      Hard to say. I've heard it said that it's a permanent solution to a temporary problem
                      Those of us who have never experienced that desperation are lucky and blessed
                      If we take the time to see with the heart and not with the mind, we shall see that we are surrounded completely by angels ~ Carlos Santana

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                        I love hutch — 3 years ago(April 20, 2022 11:36 PM)

                        I've heard it said that it's a permanent solution to a temporary problem
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                        I've heard that as well. I don't know. For some people, depression can be profound and last a lifetime, in which case, the problem would not be a temporary thing.
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                          Cheeky — 3 years ago(April 21, 2022 12:32 AM)

                          Sadly, yes… if medication and therapy doesn't help someone, then their desperation must be extreme to want to end their life
                          If we take the time to see with the heart and not with the mind, we shall see that we are surrounded completely by angels ~ Carlos Santana

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                            ToastedCheese — 3 years ago(April 20, 2022 11:43 PM)

                            They met up with their birth mother, but that didn't end up being much of a enlightening experience because she hadn't been a part of their lives or had nurtured them. She would have been more like a stranger. Blood isn't always thicker.
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                              Cheeky — 3 years ago(April 21, 2022 12:35 AM)

                              Yes, they were strangers. I know someone who was raised by her grandmother, and she refers to her birth mother by her name
                              If we take the time to see with the heart and not with the mind, we shall see that we are surrounded completely by angels ~ Carlos Santana

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                                ToastedCheese — 3 years ago(April 21, 2022 12:41 AM)

                                This says so much for how others contribute and are influential in ones lives. The birth mother brought them into this world, and they would have genetic traits, but perhaps not so much personality characteristics. These are largely formed through experience of conditioning.
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                                  Cheeky — 3 years ago(April 21, 2022 01:39 AM)

                                  I agree ~ she's not really like her birth mother at all, although they were raised by the same woman
                                  The grandmother who raised her admitted to me when her daughter was a teen that she didn't like her
                                  When your mother doesn't like you, that has to be a very strange upbringing
                                  If we take the time to see with the heart and not with the mind, we shall see that we are surrounded completely by angels ~ Carlos Santana

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                                    ToastedCheese — 3 years ago(April 21, 2022 02:11 AM)

                                    When your mother doesn't like you, that has to be a very strange upbringing
                                    A dear friend of mine had this experience. It had to be confronted and addressed and there is still animosity.
                                    No one said our birth parents are meant to be our besties.
                                    Its like fathers too running off on their children. The kid may be curious to know about their father, but it means nothing when they meet them. They played no part in the formation of the being they are today.
                                    Norman! What did you put in my tea?

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                                      Cheeky — 3 years ago(April 21, 2022 02:20 AM)

                                      My sister thought our mother didn't like her when we were growing up because of the way our mother treated her
                                      My sister spent a lot of her adult life being rude to her
                                      I can understand up to a point and our mom knew why she was like that, and she never complained about how my sister treated her, but I did
                                      My sister is rude to me sometimes too. I think it's because I'm her sister and she takes my love for granted
                                      I doubt if she would ever say rude things to her friends like she does to me
                                      If we take the time to see with the heart and not with the mind, we shall see that we are surrounded completely by angels ~ Carlos Santana

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                                        ToastedCheese — 3 years ago(April 21, 2022 06:05 AM)

                                        Same with siblings and rivalry is always going to happen. I guess I have been lucky with my sister because we pretty much got along for 99.9% of the time.
                                        Parents do need to watch themselves when they have more than one kid, because children are like sponges and can misinterpret things too.
                                        Why did your mother treat her the way she did?
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                                          Cheeky — 3 years ago(April 21, 2022 01:13 PM)

                                          Good to hear that about you and your sister
                                          My sister and I get along, it's just that she tends to be blunt, and I don't say anything because I don't want to hurt her. I laugh a lot so I'm sure I get on people's nerves
                                          My mother is a controlling person. When we were in our early teens, she started checking up on us by calling where we said we were going to go
                                          If we weren't there, she and my stepfather would wait until we got home and try to catch us in a lie
                                          At least that's what happened to my sister. Then my mom would hit her, and I guess this happened to her a lot, where our mom was hitting her
                                          That is why I understood why she had such animosity towards our mom, but when I was with them, I would get upset and annoyed at how my sister would ignore our mom when she would try and converse with her
                                          If we take the time to see with the heart and not with the mind, we shall see that we are surrounded completely by angels ~ Carlos Santana

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