Why do news networks cut away from President Trump mid-speech
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β 5 years ago(November 14, 2020 01:22 PM)How am I a **** for using your own nonsensical β reasoningβ against you in a way that helps you realize the flaw in your arguments? Disinformation is dangerous for the very reason youβre calling me a **** right now. But you support disinformation when it entertains you under the guise of β free speech!β
Disinformation is implicitly dangerous and I effectively made my point by pissing you off.
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Vlad. β 5 years ago(November 14, 2020 01:35 PM)
You did not use my reasoning. There was fraud, there were miscounts which is why there are recounts being triggered. Whether itβs material or not is at question; itβs unlikely to be material enough to matter.
What you did was say something baseless and borderline illegal.
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β 5 years ago(November 14, 2020 01:41 PM)Department of homeland security: β most secure election in history.β These people work for Trump.
There was no fraud . Republicans think minorities voting against them is fraud because they are a dying useless political party going the way of the Whigs. And you are complicit in disinformation by parroting the bs they are frantically throwing at the wall to see what sticks.
"You had me at Elk Tartare"
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Vlad. β 5 years ago(November 14, 2020 01:48 PM)
Thereβs always election fraud. You can google and find examples from every major election in US history.
Again, itβs a question of materiality, I.e. did the fraud lead to someone getting elected. I doubt that it did and there is not proof that it did. Of course there needs to be investigations into accusations, but again, with so many swing states going to Biden this can happen while assuming Biden will become POTUS in 2021.
In fact, Erica, even if the fraud is material, I donβt think itβd be a good thing for Trump to win now as itβd undermine the legitimacy of the American election process. I guess Iβm just not as partisan as you and your little friends here, deal with it.
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β 5 years ago(November 14, 2020 02:30 PM)βThereβs always election fraud.β
And yet no evidence in 2020. This isnβt about you being partisan or non partisan itβs about you being dishonest to push a narrative. If not for the USPS sabotage by Dejoy this election would not have been close.
"You had me at Elk Tartare"
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Vlad. β 5 years ago(November 14, 2020 02:34 PM)
Well I guess thatβs why we have a system of courts examining the allegations. Sorta like how the allegations of Russian collusion were baseless, we needed an examination to conclude they were. The media covered baseless Russian collusion allegations quite thoroughly, as they were potentially quite significant.
Since allegations of voter fraud are serious allegations, the media should probably be covering them. Itβs very silly that theyβre not, seeing as a lot of people are interested in learning about them.
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β 5 years ago(November 14, 2020 02:43 PM)The Russia investigations clearly werenβt baseless when connections were found that simply didnβt meet a criteria for criminality by Trump. There were Russian disinformation campaigns THIS election which was confirmed by Federal investigators, Trumpβs employees.
Your whataboutism is ineffective, inaccurate , and tiresome.
"You had me at Elk Tartare"
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Vlad. β 5 years ago(November 14, 2020 02:46 PM)
The position of the federal government is there was no collusion. The allegations pertained to Russian collusion with Trump. Thatβs what the media covered.
Of course there was Russian influence in our elections. This happens every year. We do it to other countries as well. Again, collusion.
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β 5 years ago(November 14, 2020 02:53 PM)And the U.S senate intelligence committee had evidence of collusion . Therefore you deflecting to Russia doesnβt help your point . Trump has no evidence of voter fraud. You canβt equate some evidence to no evidence and still be taken seriously.
"You had me at Elk Tartare"
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Vlad. β 5 years ago(November 14, 2020 02:56 PM)
Iβm not deflecting. The voter fraud allegations should be reported on. Iβve clearly laid out my position, as well as that Iβm not in favor of reversing the projected election of Joe Biden over it.
The office of the Presidency deserves to be treated with respect, both by the person inhabiting the office as well as the media and people outside it. They should report the issue.
Stop.