The Alt left are losing their fucking minds
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Fugazi — 7 years ago(October 10, 2018 01:50 AM)
Someone already argued with you on this. Nazis were only socialist in name. It's like any other kind of pandering with these tyrants… or not even tyrants. Lots of regular politicians sometimes attach themselves to certain ideologies, but then we see how they actually govern, and it doesn't match.
I am not defending pure socialism. I believe in a mixed system, so this isn't about bias. Stalinism is a form or communism that I think was about as bad as Nazism. -
Yermom_Is_God — 7 years ago(October 10, 2018 01:54 AM)
Yeah, and that person made no sound arguments. The Nazis were right wing by European standards only because Europe sucks and is very far left. By American standards there was nothing right wing about them, all of their policies fall into the American left wing category, including their hatred of Jews, and them being evil Socialists.
"I am Kamala Harris, my pronouns are she and her, and I am a woman sitting at the table wearing a blue suit." -A fucking idiot -
Yermom_Is_God — 7 years ago(October 10, 2018 02:07 AM)
Free schooling by the state, free healthcare, gun control, pro abortion, anti Capitalism. This is all very leftwing stuff that was part of the Nazi agenda.
"I am Kamala Harris, my pronouns are she and her, and I am a woman sitting at the table wearing a blue suit." -A fucking idiot -
Jared Kushner — 7 years ago(October 10, 2018 02:14 AM)
Why the need to rewrite history? There's no need. All rational people are with you: East Bloc Communism was totalitarian, despotic, and ultimately a huge failure.
Nazism, while also totalitarian, had its roots in hypernationalist far-right groups and their philosophy, it shared aspects with communism, but it wasn't socialism. -
Yermom_Is_God — 7 years ago(October 10, 2018 03:01 AM)
Rightwing by European standards, but definitely not US standards. That's not rewriting history, that's a fact.
"I am Kamala Harris, my pronouns are she and her, and I am a woman sitting at the table wearing a blue suit." -A fucking idiot -
Jared Kushner — 7 years ago(October 10, 2018 03:46 AM)
You said that before. It's still nonsense.
The Nazis were right-wing by American standards too, unless you believe that most Americans were to the right of extreme nationalism, anti-semitism, eugenics, racial hierarchy, Social Darwinism, and paramilitarism – all components of the Nazi ideology. I tend to give Americans more credit than that.
There were definitely echoes with the Commies in the sense that the primacy of the State trumped the needs and rights of the individual, and maybe that and the name of the party confuses you. -
Yermom_Is_God — 7 years ago(October 10, 2018 03:58 AM)
Lol, you're rewriting history because you leftists always do that, you did the same thing with slavery and Jim Crow. There is nothing about the Nazis that were American right wing.
"I am Kamala Harris, my pronouns are she and her, and I am a woman sitting at the table wearing a blue suit." -A fucking idiot -
Jared Kushner — 7 years ago(October 10, 2018 11:24 AM)
So you couldn't or wouldn't respond to my post on the Nazia so you trotted out your hobby horse of 'the Democrats were behind slavery and segregation'. OK.
It's too bad, because you can be a conservative for perfectly good reasons, without trying to rewrite history and make the Nazis into communists,
Nobody but you here is drawing the connection from the Nazis to the American right-wing. It wouldn't be a valid comparison, they have different intellectual and social roots, so I am not sure why you are so worried about it, -
Steve Lake — 7 years ago(October 10, 2018 01:53 PM)
Great analogy. They did exactly the same thing with Jim Crow and Slavery. Trying to say it was conservatives .
When in reality , only 1 political party in the United States was for both of those things. THE DEMOCRATS!!!!
You are also correct in saying the Nazi's were a form of Socialism. They had no roots in The conservative or right political spectrum of the United States.
However Hitler did study and was a fan of the Confederates.
The only poster who had his account banned 4 times without ever breaking any rules each of those times. -
Jared Kushner — 7 years ago(October 10, 2018 03:45 PM)
Steve Lake said...
Great analogy. They did exactly the same thing with Jim Crow and Slavery. Trying to say it was conservatives .
When in reality , only 1 political party in the United States was for both of those things. THE DEMOCRATS!!!!
You are also correct in saying the Nazi's were a form of Socialism. They had no roots in The conservative or right political spectrum of the United States.
However Hitler did study and was a fan of the Confederates.
'They had no roots in The conservative or right political spectrum of the United States.'
Who here said that they did? -
Steve Lake — 7 years ago(October 10, 2018 11:06 PM)
Jared Kushner said...
'They had no roots in The conservative or right political spectrum of the United States.'
Who here said that they did?
All of you obtuse Fools in this very thread boo boo.
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Yermom_Is_God — 7 years ago(October 11, 2018 12:03 AM)
Jared Kushner said...
Way to respond In a cogent and articulate manner.
Now get me my bags, Bellhop!
You ended up agreeing that the Nazis were not right wing by American standards. I thought we were done.
"I am Kamala Harris, my pronouns are she and her, and I am a woman sitting at the table wearing a blue suit." -A fucking idiot -
Jared Kushner — 7 years ago(October 11, 2018 12:07 AM)
Yermom_Is_God said...
You ended up agreeing that the Nazis were not right wing by American standards. I thought we were done.
They were definitely right wing by American standards, super-right wing. They just have nothing to do with most American right wing people, given the Nazis' extremity. -
Jared Kushner — 7 years ago(October 11, 2018 12:15 AM)
Yermom_Is_God said...
You ended up agreeing that the Nazis were not right wing by American standards. I thought we were done.
The point Yermom you kept trying to make was that the Nazis were left-wing. But they weren't, but it may be confusing for some because their ideology was not only far-right nationalist but also corporatist….whatever the case, they were ****heels and they were no good for the individual and they are all burning in some sort of hell. -
Yermom_Is_God — 7 years ago(October 11, 2018 01:04 AM)
Jared Kushner said...
The point Yermom you kept trying to make was that the Nazis were left-wing. But they weren't, but it may be confusing for some because their ideology was not only far-right nationalist but also corporatist….whatever the case, they were shitheels and they were no good for the individual and they are all burning in some sort of hell.
Keep in mind I was referring to only American standards. European standards they were right wing for sure, but US standards they were left, which is why the slimy Democrats in the US loved Hitler at first.
"I am Kamala Harris, my pronouns are she and her, and I am a woman sitting at the table wearing a blue suit." -A fucking idiot -
Steve Lake — 7 years ago(October 11, 2018 04:37 AM)
Jared Kushner said...
Way to respond In a cogent and articulate manner.
Now get me my bags, Bellhop!
^ Obvious sock is obvious
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