So now its a fence and not a wall; Not going to overturn RVW….
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BruceTJenner — 9 years ago(November 14, 2016 08:36 PM)
It is you no one will take seriously. You ramble on and on about what a wall is supposed to look like instead of what a wall will do. I care about what people call me, too. It that some on here call ridiculous names and have to be either ignored or laughed at.
No people will take me seriously - if what I'm saying makes sense and is logical they may not agree but YOU don't make any sense nor are you being logical and when I show you how you're not making logical sense you respond like a child with "yada,yada,yada"
This isn't about what a WALL will look like as in what color - will be or what what type of design if any it will have. The point which you are purposely ignoring & now trying to save face by ignoring is that IT WON'T BE A WALL - IT WILL BE A FENCE PER CONGRESS. WE ALREADY HAVE A FENCE AND THAT HAS NOT KEPT PEOPLE OUT SO THAT'S WHY TRUMP PROPOSED A WALL - A WALL THAT THE GOP CONGRESS DOES NOT WANT - SO IF THEY BUILD A FENCE INSTEAD OF A WALL - WHICH WE ALREADY HAVE - THEN WHAT IS THIS FENCE SUPPOSED TO DO THAT THE OTHER FENCE DIDN'T DO?
This is what a wall looks like (Trump promised):
https://c1.staticflickr.com/8/7465/15794121085_b27d4f63f4_b.jpg
This is what a fence looks like (congress wants):
http://www.minutemanhq.com/images/nacofence_03.jpg
They are NOT the same - so its not a matter of cosmetics - as you seen to be referring - they are not one in the same.
^^^^^you keep talking about a wall when that's not what the congress wants to build - so are mad at congress for not wanting to go forward with the WALL? Or, is it like I suspected and you really don't care and it was just about making sure a bigot got into the white house - basically a protest vote?
I proudly cast my protest vote, and I'd do it again tomorrow. I think you don't know what kind of betrayal people have had over the last couple of decades by their own elected government. This is what happens when you betray us. Do our bidding, and do it honestly, or get out of town.
I'm pointing out about government betrayal in this very post - and yet you keep ignoring it since it's being done by your grand ole party. People who voted for Trump want a wall - these same people most likely voted for a GOP congress to support Trump - now if that GOP congress is now saying they want a fence - isn't that a government betrayal? And, are you mad at that betrayal? They got your vote and now are saying they want to scale back that wall to an inferior fence.
You can't talk out of both sides of your mouth. Either you're mad at government betrayal - in which case - this should bother you - or you're just a partisan hack.
Anyone that does not like that can suck eggs. We won this time. trump will turn the town upside down.
What have you really won. He's not touching abortion or marriage - and the wall is now a fence. The deportation of 3 million is just 1 million up from the 2 that Obama deported and won't make a dent in the 12 million that are here. His cabinet is full of the same insiders and establishment that people like you complained about. So what have you won? You have a bigot in the white house (confirmed by his pick of Steve Bannon) - is that what you call winning - voting in a guy who walks back on all and/or most his promises.
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BruceTJenner — 9 years ago(November 14, 2016 10:11 PM)
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IThinkImMe — 9 years ago(November 13, 2016 10:01 PM)
Seriously.. did you listen to a different interview than I did? Because he said, outright, that 'some parts' will need a fence but most of it will be a wall and that the whole RVW thing is on the backburner Seriously?
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BruceTJenner — 9 years ago(November 13, 2016 10:11 PM)
Did you hear Leslie Stahl when she said that the establishment Republicans - you know the ones who need to pass the 10 billion for a wall - want a fence? So if they don't pass the budget and want a fence - unless Trump spends his own money - who is going to pay for a wall?
And RVWADE - he said he would hand over to the states - he said he was pro-life and that he would put a judge on the court who shared that view - no where did he say he would challenge to overturn abortion federally - matter of fact he said we were a long way from even getting there - let me guess how long that is - about 8 years.
Yet some people were under the guise that he would call for the court to overturn it asap - yet his answer was no were near the conviction he displayed during his campaign.
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IThinkImMe — 9 years ago(November 13, 2016 10:19 PM)
You just go on hearing what you want to hear. BTW The budget for the fence/wall comes out of the aid we give to Mexico so they would definitely be encouraged to build it as quick as possible to get that money back. Not like they don't deal with this kind of shyt on their southern border already
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BruceTJenner — 9 years ago(November 13, 2016 10:33 PM)
You just go on hearing what you want to hear.
No, I heard Leslie right the first time she said that the Republicans want a fence. Pull the transcript and correct me if that's not what she said.
The president of Mexico has said they are NOT paying for a wall - in TRUMPS orange face - and what did Trump say - not a thing - nothing - his response was "well we didn't discuss that". Um, that would have been the first thing we would have discussed.
If congress wants a fence we are getting a fence - if Trump was this big bad person who thought for himself and had his own ideas - he wouldn't have hired the establishment he spoke out against. Think of it as a marriage one will eventually start to influence the other - and we have already seen who going to wear the pants in this relationship - hint: it ain't the guy with no government experience.
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IThinkImMe — 9 years ago(November 13, 2016 10:41 PM)
What she said and what he said are two different stories.. It's amazing you can't accept his answer.Mexico IS NOT PAYING FOR THE WALL anyways.. citing previous statement.
P.S. Hillary wanted a 'fence' too.. But if you've seen Sicario, you'll know what's really going on down there.. A wall is the minimum we need in certain areas.
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BruceTJenner — 9 years ago(November 13, 2016 10:49 PM)
You said I heard what I wanted to hear and now you are saying that in fact they said two different things - so I didn't "just hear what I want to hear" - I heard her correctly when she said that Congress wants a fence - Trump said he wants a Wall - who will win - again it's not going to be the guy who flip flops on his promise of cleaning establishment house - and then hires that same establishment as his direct advisers. Common sense tells me that congress - you know the people who do this and have been doing this for a living know how to play this game more than someone who has filed bankruptcy 4 times.
Business as usual.
And, Hillary may have wanted a fence but she didn't promise us anything other than a fence - this is about Donald and him not being able to do the MAIN thing he said he was going to do.
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IThinkImMe — 9 years ago(November 13, 2016 10:53 PM)
So she was PRO gay marriage the entire time as well? Throwing stones in a glass house leaves no one unprotected.
The main thing he wants is to get rid of criminals and gang members. Are you serously 'pro-choice' on the matter?
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BruceTJenner — 9 years ago(November 13, 2016 11:01 PM)
This isn't a referendum on Hillary she is not the president elect. This is about Donald not being able to fulfill the main thing he promised to fulfill. Someone said that once this country is financial destroyed via the Donald and his catastrophic economic polices - will people finally get why - everyone - across party lines warned us that he would be bad for the country? Will they take some blame for voting that unqualified bigot into office and cutting off their noses to spite their faces? And, someone said NO - they'll just blame Obama - and your response proves that.
I bring up Donald's flip flipping and inability to deliver his main promise of building a wall - thanks to a GOP congress that his supporters also voted for - and you bring up Hillary. You see how silly and ridiculous that sounds?
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BruceTJenner — 9 years ago(November 13, 2016 11:12 PM)
Sounds like you're mad at Hillary for Donald walking back on his promises - or not being able to fulfill them due to a GOP congress - sounds like you have some misdirected anger -maybe you should see someone about that - or should pick up a hammer and some nails and use that anger toward something positive and beneficial to this country like BUILDING A WOODEN FENCE
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BruceTJenner — 9 years ago(November 14, 2016 12:42 AM)
What did the smartest one do again?
Didn't vote for Trump.
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BruceTJenner — 9 years ago(November 13, 2016 10:26 PM)
Desperate Hillary supporter gasping for air.
You are a dogmatic, liberal hack and supporter of genocide against Caucasian males. Truly a pathetic sight to see.
I'll admit that the caliber of words that you used is higher than your average deplorable however, nothing I said would warrant that label. The genocide isn't against Caucasian males it's against the United States and the fact that you still think it terms of us vs them - proves that your not as intelligent as the words you use.
The only hack mentioned in this thread is Trump - and that has been shown by how he has moved and changed on some of his most Make America Great Again rhetoric - it must suck to know that even with your white skin - the Republican establishment doesn't give a sh!t about you either - and they basically told you that and thanked you for the vote - by downgrading your wall to a cherry wood fence.
Guess you're not as important as you thought you were huh?
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BruceTJenner — 9 years ago(November 13, 2016 11:07 PM)
Hillary didn't win the election - why you keep mentioning her I don't know - we are taking about the president elect of the United States - if you want to take about Hillary - the one who conceded - make your own thread about her. This is about Donald walking back the core of what he promised his band of deporables.
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