Like Adam and Eve?
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Aph the cat whisperer — 1 year ago(December 03, 2024 10:22 PM)
He probably creates things to remind humanity to appreciate what they have and the time they have. And the people who are born deformed are the true gift of the world because they see through and past everyone's bullshit and are pure at heart and truly appreciate everything for what it is.
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Aph the cat whisperer — 1 year ago(December 03, 2024 11:21 PM)
Why even bother questioning it? If everything was perfect we wouldn't be on Earth. We would be in heaven where everything is perfect. We apparently choose to leave heaven to experience an existence in a different form so make of that what u will. I know I didn't choose this ****show of a planet to experience lol
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bigbadwolf666 — 1 year ago(December 03, 2024 11:31 PM)
So U agree that God is capable of creating imperfect things making him imperfect.
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filmflaneur — 1 year ago(December 05, 2024 10:22 PM)
God saw everything that he had made, and behold, it was very good.Genesis 1:31 KJV
Something 'very good' is not 'perfect'. God was happy with the way things turned out.
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filmflaneur — 1 year ago(December 05, 2024 11:51 PM)
Well, there is no reason why a perfect god could not want something imperfect. The question is then whether a god which deliberately creates the imperfect is a greater one than one which does not. It ought to be impossible to imagine a greater god than the greatest and most perfect God.
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filmflaneur — 1 year ago(December 06, 2024 01:23 PM)
I was ultimately replying to why, if God is perfect, did he create imperfect things? To which the answer still is, that He can if He wants to, there is no reason why not. He also does not need to explain Himself. However a sceptic like me would find it easier to believe in Him if it could be shown He was logical and coherent in his actions.
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filmflaneur — 1 year ago(December 06, 2024 07:39 PM)
I can comprehend that if a God can do anything, then it can choose to make something imperfect..
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Also that God 'works in mysterious ways' can be seen as just special pleading. His ways, when favourable to an interpretation of Him, always seem clear enough to His followers then. But if one's mind is too small to comprehend, how then can one, er, comprehend that there must be a reason behind things?
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bigbadwolf666 — 1 year ago(December 07, 2024 12:56 AM)
But Why Would Perfection Want to Make something Imperfect?
Many People Have Questions,
They dont know the Answer.
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filmflaneur — 1 year ago(December 07, 2024 11:27 AM)
Just above you said our minds were too feeble to understand, I seem to remember. All we can say is, if we accept the existence of an omnipotent deity, then by definition it can do most things it wants. (I don't, so for me this is just a thought experiment)
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bigbadwolf666 — 1 year ago(December 07, 2024 01:56 PM)
filmflaneur said...
I said IF we accept the existence of an omnipotent deity.
I Dont.
Without strife, your victory has no meaning.
Without strife, you do not advance.
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filmflaneur — 1 year ago(December 07, 2024 11:30 AM)
Well, somethings He clearly does want to explain or make clear. One must remember that God did not write or make the Bible it was merely 'inspired' by Him it says, and inspiration can be wrong. However I would say that would have been done more efficiently if had just dictated the whole thing (a characteristic attributed by Muslims to the Qu'ran though, even there it leads to arguments).
I think you'll find things are a little more complicated than that.