Race Realism
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RedBaroness1966 — 9 years ago(December 15, 2016 04:52 AM)
This whole thing is just scientifically illiterate evolution denial.
Care to elaborate or is this your usual meaningless, scientifically illiterate ravings?
You read Anne Frank and now you think you can debunk holocaust denial.
You're equating reading Ann Frank with getting a PhD in molecular genetics?
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RedBaroness1966 — 9 years ago(December 15, 2016 05:18 AM)
Are they mutha socks? I lose track, moonunit is stupid enough to be his sock, the other one can write coherent sentences so I'm not convinced.
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moonunit-00839 — 9 years ago(December 15, 2016 05:34 AM)
I will try, but it's hard to have a discussion about something you are passive aggressive attacking while at the same time denying it exists. Very insular. Pick one or the other.
He also brings up something that racists often forget, Sub Saharan Africans and particularly African Americans have greater genetic diversity than Europeans and Asians. This means if race and genes were a factor in IQ diversity, African Americans would have higher IQs than their European American counterparts as Dr Tenneseen points out - The fact that the observed pattern is in the other direction suggests that it has nothing to do with genetics.
This is incoherent. It looks like you read something you didn't understand and are trying to bluster your way through it. Yes blacks have greater genetic diversity than other races. But this has no logical connection to higher IQs. It does mean they have greater
variance
(IQ diversity?), and race realists not only acknowledge this, they cite it for their own arguments. Asians have less variance than whites. So while Asians have a higher IQ than whites, there are fewer Asian geniuses hence we see less innovation from them. Whether this is true or not is another argument. -
RedBaroness1966 — 9 years ago(December 15, 2016 05:53 AM)
You have the nerve to call me incoherent??? I may not explain the extremely well known phenomenon of heterosis very well but I was paraphrasing the blog, the author
http://people.oregonstate.edu/~tennessj/Jacob_A._Tennessen.html
explains it much better than me, perhaps you should read it. So why do you think high intelligence can't be linked to genetic diversity? The author isn't saying it is he's just pointing out that from what we know about the benefits of genetic diversity, that would be the logical conclusion. What's your counter argument, other than 'no it isn't, so there'?
Asians and Jews may have higher IQs than Europeans but there's no evidence that it's due to genetics.
Do you want to elaborate on your comment about Ann Frank?
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RedBaroness1966 — 9 years ago(December 15, 2016 04:57 AM)
You must have missed this
The scientific method says that you cant infer a genetic effect between two groups when you havent controlled for environmental factors
Despite the fact I said it twice, that applies to Ashkenazi Jews and Asians as much as it does to African Americans and Europeans.
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untrve — 9 years ago(December 15, 2016 05:00 AM)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_Transracial_Adoption_Study
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RedBaroness1966 — 9 years ago(December 15, 2016 05:16 AM)
And what exactly do you think the outcome of that study was?
EDIT: Or are you implying that this study controlled for environmental factors? Because it really, really doesn't do that.
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