You never did before, why should now be any different?
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Miscella — 9 years ago(February 01, 2017 05:59 PM)
Incredulous can also mean
unable
to believe
Whether you're unable or unwilling is something only you know for sure. Problem is, if God exists, then He knows it too, and so if it's the latter, then you are
without excuse
, just as Romans 1 says. I can only hope that you hope you're not wrong. -
filmflaneur — 9 years ago(February 02, 2017 07:23 AM)
Whether you're unable or unwilling is something only you know for sure
Well spotted.
Problem is, if God exists, then He knows it too,
This assumes of course that 'god' is conscious - and I know we have had words on this being necessary in the case, say, of a creation which was not deliberate. But otherwise, well spotted again!
I can only hope that you hope you're not wrong.
You are naturally entitled to hope. That, after all, is what religion is all about at the end of the day, is it not? But since I am the only one chatting here (God being busy on the politics board recently) who knows for sure, and as you know that I always attest to the possibility of ultimately being wrong in lacking belief in your god, then it can reasonably suggested that I am
unable
rather
unwilling
. But will you be willing, or able, to accept that reasoning?
I'm well aware that railing does no good
kurt2000 -
filmflaneur — 9 years ago(February 06, 2017 04:37 AM)
Yes you have already said that. No need to repeat yourself. But it remains the case that, if someone admits that they could be wrong, it is more likely that they are unable, rather than unwilling, to believe. You'll just have to take God's, and my, word for that.
With only two weeks to go, can't you be a little more interesting?
I'm well aware that railing does no good
kurt2000 -
Tas-1010 — 9 years ago(January 27, 2017 04:57 PM)
setting things off
by accident
.
The resulting order
..
This is
too much!
(At least, you recognize there is order; but I'll bet you won't call it 'design', will you? Like you can really have order to the degree that is observed, without preparation and arrangement being behind it!)
www.jw.org
or
https://tv.jw.org/#en/home -
graham-167 — 9 years ago(January 13, 2017 04:49 AM)
Not even so much as that.
Arlon promised proof of god. But then he kept changing the subject to intelligent design instead. He resolutely ignored every single request for his proof of god. I asked him several times! All ignored.
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senseibushido — 9 years ago(January 13, 2017 04:24 AM)
present science will have to be revised in order to make the alien answer any good
I don't understand why you think this is anything more than a thought experiment. You do realize that the idea of life on earth being created by aliens is merely one
possible
explanation and that only the Erich von Dänikens of the world actually believe it's trueright? Who am I kidding, of course you don't realize that.
the big bang was a hoax perpetrated by theists
I'm sorry, what? -
Arlon10 — 9 years ago(January 13, 2017 04:33 AM)
You do realize that the idea of life on earth being created by aliens is merely one
possible
explanation
Possible in the sense of Star Trek possible, which is another way of saying impossible.
Cleanup on aisle 4
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bang
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Matthew 15:14 -
Eva_Yojimbo — 9 years ago(January 13, 2017 10:36 AM)
Possible in the sense of Star Trek possible, which is another way of saying impossible.
In this case, God is possible in the sense Gandalf is possible, which is another way of saying
warriorspirit
: if the penis is used as a pencil holder we'll incur a cost. -
graham-167 — 9 years ago(January 13, 2017 04:39 AM)
Your colleague graham-167 advanced the discussion, accepting that there had to be an intelligent designer, but that it could have been something not a god such as an alien with no more science than we have. It sparked much interest.
And you said you'd provide proof of god's existence. Only you didn't.
So I didn't feel stupid, but rather disappointed and let down by your failure.
Oh, and I'm not his colleague.
If I could stop a rapist from raping a child I would. That's the difference between me and god. -
graham-167 — 9 years ago(January 14, 2017 04:55 AM)
I [lie] a lot.
I can do that too.
I asked you over and over for proof of god. Not a "higher being". God. You failed to provide any at all.
Now you're reduced to lying about it. How telling that is.
There's an understatement.
So you were lying about that too? Okay.
If I could stop a rapist from raping a child I would. That's the difference between me and god.